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Changes since congestion pricing started in New York

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437 points Vinnl | 8 comments | 13 May 25 10:43 UTC | HN request time: 0.997s | source | bottom
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philipallstar ◴[14 May 25 14:36 UTC] No.43985073[source]▶
The increased speeds are excellent for those who can afford the toll. This is a universal benefit of toll roads for those people.
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1. digbybk ◴[14 May 25 15:14 UTC] No.43985546[source]▶
Also excellent for those public transport riders who can't afford car ownership.
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2. zahlman ◴[14 May 25 22:51 UTC] No.43990001[source]▶
(Or who would prefer to spend the money elsewhere.)
3. efavdb ◴[15 May 25 01:54 UTC] No.43991106[source]▶
For completeness, might as well add not excellent for those who have a car, find driving more convenient, but can’t afford the toll.
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4. atkailash ◴[15 May 25 03:30 UTC] No.43991564[source]▶
Oh well then. Either spend less on the train (also saving money on gas and maintenance) or stay in suburbia. We pay a premium to live in the city, much more than the $9 so I’m not gonna shed any tears that it’s not much less convenient for someone to not drive

Driving is almost always more convenient on many levels, so it’s not really the best argument start from “it’s just easier”

5. an_account ◴[15 May 25 05:08 UTC] No.43992019[source]▶
If you can afford a car in NYC then you can afford the toll. Cars are very expensive to own.
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6. jampekka ◴[15 May 25 10:13 UTC] No.43993508{3}[source]▶
If you could afford the car only just, it's quite obvious you can't afford it if you now have to pay congestion charges on top.
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7. hombre_fatal ◴[15 May 25 12:54 UTC] No.43994521{4}[source]▶
Technically true, but it's a megaluxury that comes at a high cost, especially to everyone else.
8. const_cast ◴[16 May 25 05:47 UTC] No.44002177{4}[source]▶
At that point you're already living beyond your means. Automobiles take up, on average, 15% of the gross income of the average American.

Just take the 15% gross salary raise and move on with your life.