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Bus stops here: Shanghai lets riders design their own routes

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491 points anigbrowl | 5 comments | 14 May 25 04:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source
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zaptheimpaler ◴[14 May 25 05:21 UTC] No.43981102[source]▶
China is the only modern country that has both the capability and the lack of bureaucracy to just do things like this. It's simultaneously amazing to see and a depressing reminder of how badly western societies are crippled by rules of their own making. It would take years to make a single new bus route in any city, I don't think I've ever even seen that happen.
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keiferski ◴[14 May 25 06:20 UTC] No.43981443[source]▶
Check out Warsaw, Poland. Public transit is excellent, clean, and basically gets you anywhere via bus, tram, subway, or one of 4+ ridesharing apps. Bike lane coverage is also pretty good. It's obviously an order of magnitude smaller than Shanghai, but so are most Western cities.

Good overview of the system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kn2tL51bBs&t=8s

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1. grumpy-de-sre ◴[14 May 25 06:22 UTC] No.43981456[source]▶
Warsaw really is booming, visiting from Berlin feels like stepping ten years into the future.

Lots of real (and not paper) economic growth.

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2. keiferski ◴[14 May 25 06:25 UTC] No.43981473[source]▶
Hah, yeah I do really like Berlin, but traveling from Warsaw to Berlin does feel like going back in time, infrastructure and mentality wise.
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3. grumpy-de-sre ◴[14 May 25 06:37 UTC] No.43981541[source]▶
I mean the public transport infrastructure here is great, and there's a lot to love about the place (it's why I'm still here after all).

But spot on about the mentality. A lot of that great infrastructure here was inherited, and the attitude around it's continued development has been super conservative. Not to mention the Berlin government is borderline insolvent.

Just look at the cluster fuck that was car free Friedrichstr.

Warsaw is great, need to visit Poland again, have a huge soft spot for pączki.

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4. unwind ◴[14 May 25 06:52 UTC] No.43981609{3}[source]▶
ObWikipedia: pączi are a Polish filled doughnut [1] that seems awesome. Thanks.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%85czki

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5. keiferski ◴[14 May 25 06:53 UTC] No.43981614{4}[source]▶
They are indeed awesome, and once a year, everyone eats donuts for Fat Thursday.

https://culture.pl/en/article/fat-thursday-polands-tastiest-...