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RMPR ◴[] No.43971862[source]
Nice write-up.

> Screen offers a multi-user mode which allows to attach to Screen sessions owned by other users in the system (given the proper credentials). These multi-user features are only available when Screen is installed with the setuid-root bit set. This configuration of Screen results in highly increased attack surface, because of the complex Screen code that runs with root privileges in this case

I wasn't aware of such a feature but I guess it's what makes stuff like tmate possible. Speaking of which, I wonder if tmux is affected by the same kind of vulnerability.

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dooglius ◴[] No.43971987[source]
No, tmux uses unix domain sockets. I have no idea why screen chose to take the setuid approach instead here; it seems totally unnecessary to have root privileges.

EDIT: Further down, TFA gives a plausible explanation: the current screen devs are not fully familiar with the code base. If so, the setuid-root approach was probably the easiest way to make the feature work in lieu of such familiarity.

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JdeBP ◴[] No.43972036[source]
screen has a lot of architectural baggage that can be traced back to its initial 1987 comp.sources.unix/mod.sources versions in some cases. Being set-UID to the superuser is one of them. See the doco for screen as it was posted in volume 10:

https://sources.vsta.org/comp.sources.unix/volume10/screen/

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ngangaga[dead post] ◴[] No.43972131[source]
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entropie ◴[] No.43972586{3}[source]
For me it felt (!) like screen is pretty much obsolute since 10+ years. When tmux came I switched and never looked back and I know a few that handled it the same.
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dbdoskey ◴[] No.43973786{4}[source]
A similar process is happening with zellij and tmux. Since I switched over I feel that tmux is obsolete.
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fullstop ◴[] No.43974148{5}[source]
I hadn't used Zellij before, but I tried it out. Visually it works better than tmux and it shares enough key bindings with tmux to make it a pretty seamless transition.

With that being said, the binary is huge. I get that zellij is statically linked, but tmux is about 900KiB and has minimal dependencies. I'm flabbergasted that a terminal multiplexer, stripped, is 38MiB.

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1. spookie ◴[] No.43974914{6}[source]
Looking at the source code I assume it's just the amount of cargo deps. Some of which I'm not sure what place they have on a tmux at a first glance.
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2. fullstop ◴[] No.43976361[source]
Hopefully some effort is eventually put into slimming things down.