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wnevets ◴[] No.43964906[source]
> Minnesota woman to pay $220,000 fine for 24 illegally downloaded songs [1]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/sep/11/minnesota... [1]

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gruez ◴[] No.43965002[source]
How is this relevant?

>The RIAA accused her of downloading and distributing more than 1,700 music files on file-sharing site KaZaA

Emphasis mine. I think most people would agree that whatever AI companies are doing with training AI models is different than sending verbatim copies to random people on the internet.

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wnevets ◴[] No.43965037[source]
> I think most people would agree that whatever AI companies are doing with training AI models is different than sending verbatim copies to random people on the internet.

I think most artist who had their works "trained by AI" without compensation would disagree with you.

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gruez ◴[] No.43965206[source]
Studio ghibli[1] might object to both people pirating their films and AI companies allowing their art style to be duplicated, but that's not the same as saying those two things are the same. Sharing a movie rip on bittorrent is obviously different than training an AI model that can reproduce the studio ghbili style, even to diehard AI opponents.

[1] used purely as an example

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1. hulitu ◴[] No.43965997[source]
> Sharing a movie rip on bittorrent is obviously different than training an AI model that can reproduce the studio ghbili style, even to diehard AI opponents.

Ok, how about training AI on leaked Windows source code ?

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2. gruez ◴[] No.43966083[source]
arguably different from both, because you microsoft could say it's a trade secret. Note I'm not claiming that because it's different, it must be okay, just that it's unfair to compare torrenting with AI training.