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ljf ◴[] No.43947293[source]
Looks like this needs updating now https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chinese-cargo-seattle-tari...
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kristjansson ◴[] No.43947401[source]
> In fact, the Northwest Seaport Alliance … said it was so far seeing more vessels call into port in 2025 than in 2024, with three more calls in the first quarter of 2025 than during the same period in 2024.

> However, the ships calling into port were arriving with unpredictable volumes of cargo — sometimes 30% less than anticipated

And Snopes felt comfortable rating “mostly false” to the top level claim? I get that they’re trying to navigating treacherous waters, but “there’s still ships, they’re just 1/3 empty” is as much support for the top level claim as it is contradiction

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lowbloodsugar ◴[] No.43947638[source]
Snopes has been pwnd. It now adheres to the standard of literal truth with a political bias. So if someone posts “Bernie Sanders has 30,000 at a rally” (true) but the image is of a different (also true) rally but on a different date, then Snopes just says “it’s false”. Not “true, but the image is wrong”. Not informative, like “Bernie did have 30,000 people attend but this image is from XYZ”. Just says FALSE! Same here.
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mikem170 ◴[] No.43948527[source]
They've always seemed informative and do a good job of showing their sources. How big a deal is the single-word true/false judgement for an ambiguous claim if all the relevant details are summarized?
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1. lowbloodsugar ◴[] No.43957621{3}[source]
They weren’t.
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2. mikem170 ◴[] No.43968355[source]
Is this [0] the Snopes article you were talking about, on the Bernie Sander rally?

They rate it "mostly true" and in the summary mentioned the true attendance and the false photo, just like you said they should have.

I don't get what you are saying. They seem on the ball.

[0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/27000-people-came-to-a-ber...