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ljf ◴[] No.43947293[source]
Looks like this needs updating now https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chinese-cargo-seattle-tari...
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kristjansson ◴[] No.43947401[source]
> In fact, the Northwest Seaport Alliance … said it was so far seeing more vessels call into port in 2025 than in 2024, with three more calls in the first quarter of 2025 than during the same period in 2024.

> However, the ships calling into port were arriving with unpredictable volumes of cargo — sometimes 30% less than anticipated

And Snopes felt comfortable rating “mostly false” to the top level claim? I get that they’re trying to navigating treacherous waters, but “there’s still ships, they’re just 1/3 empty” is as much support for the top level claim as it is contradiction

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lurk2 ◴[] No.43947726[source]
If I drink 30% of a glass of water, is the glass of water empty?
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ok_dad ◴[] No.43948122[source]
If I drink 30% less water overall, I’d be pretty unhealthy.
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lurk2 ◴[] No.43948593[source]
That is irrelevant. The question was weather or not the ports can be considered empty if some ships are up to 30% empty, which is not the case. Emptiness can be more encompassing than 0% (there is still some residual water in an “empty” glass of water), but it isn’t so expansive as to range from >0% to 70%.
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ok_dad ◴[] No.43948916[source]
You’re speaking about technicalities. There shouldn’t be any argument that our economy will continue to be fucked by tariffs and supply issues. 30 percent is massive.
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dialup_sounds ◴[] No.43949819[source]
It's not a technicality, it's literally what the claim was: "Seattle's marine cargo terminals were empty and international vessels had stopped calling into the port as of April 29, 2025, due to the U.S.'s newly imposed tariffs."

The fact that the terminals are not empty doesn't mean the economy isn't fucked, so there's no reason to argue about it either way.

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ok_dad ◴[] No.43949926[source]
We’re sitting here arguing about the obviously incorrect title and America is burning, so we are speaking about the wrong thing. It’s irrelevant whether it’s 70 or 0 percent, we’re still fucked. Discussing the issue of 70 vs 0 percent isn’t going to solve how fucked we are, so it’s a technicality.
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1. lurk2 ◴[] No.43951169[source]
> America is burning

Please take it back to Reddit.

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2. ok_dad ◴[] No.43951501[source]
That’s not a useful comment or even an argument against my statement, gfy