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sheepscreek ◴[] No.43949463[source]
That’s fair but there’s another nuance that they can’t solve for. Cost and availability.

AI is not a substitute for traditional therapy, but it offers an 80% benefit at a fraction of the cost. It could be used to supplement therapy, for the periods between sessions.

The biggest risk is with privacy. Meta could not be trusted knowing what you’re going to wear or eat. Now imagine them knowing your deepest darkest secrets. The advertising business model does not gel well with providing mental health support. Subscription (with privacy guarantees) is the way to go.

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sarchertech ◴[] No.43949589[source]
Does it offer 80% of the benefit? An AI could match what a human therapist would say 80% (or 99%) of the time and still provide negative benefit.

Therapy seems like the last place an LLM would be beneficial because it’s very hard to keep an LLM from telling you what you want to hear. I can see anyway you could guarantee that a chatbot cause severe damage to a vulnerable patient by supporting their neurosis.

We’re not anywhere close to an LLM which is trained to be supportive and understanding in tone but will never affirm your irrational fears, insecurities, and delusions.

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singpolyma3 ◴[] No.43949858{3}[source]
I mean most forms of professional therapy the therapist shouldn't say much at all and certainly shouldn't give advice. The point is to have someone listen in a way that feels like they are really listening
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caseyy ◴[] No.43950125{4}[source]
> most forms of professional therapy the therapist shouldn't say much at all

This is very untrue. Here is a list of psychotherapy modalities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychotherapies. In most (almost every) modalities, the therapist provides an intervention and offers advice (by definition: guidance, recommendations).

There is Carl Rogers' client-centered therapy, non-directive supportive therapy, and that's it for low-intervention modalities off the top of my head. Two out of over a hundred. Hardly "most" at all.

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1. sheepscreek ◴[] No.43950688{5}[source]
This is very cool. Reading through the list, I discovered:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person-centered_therapy

That sounds an awful lot like what current gen AIs are capable of.

I believe we are in the very early stages of AI-assisted therapy, much like the early days of psychology itself. Before we understood what was generally acceptable and what was not, it was a Wild West with medical practitioners employing harmful techniques such as lobotomy.

Because there are no standards on what constitutes an emotional support AI, or any agreed upon expectations from them, we can only go by what it seems to be capable of. And it seems to be capable of talking intelligently and logically with deep empathy. A rubber ducky 2.0 that can organize your thoughts and even infer meaning from them on demand.