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banku_brougham ◴[] No.43948598[source]
Huge amount of discussion in this thread neglects the idea that a massive increase in tariffs will throttle trade shipments. Its the obvious expected effect.
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roxolotl ◴[] No.43949034[source]
Again further stating the obvious here but this is the _desired_ effect. Not saying if that’s good one way or the other but it’s clear the goal is to reduce inbound volume from the world.
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bsder ◴[] No.43949951[source]
> Again further stating the obvious here but this is the _desired_ effect.

Hanlon's Razor suggests that your statement is incorrect.

Tariffs need consistency and stability to be effective rather than purely disruptive.

You can see this in how much more effective the countries applying tariffs against the US are handling things. Since they are applying tariffs and leaving them in place, the incentives are working properly, and they are disconnecting from the US businesses.

In the US, by contrast, businesses are either shutting down or holding their breath in the hopes that tariffs will pass.

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1. roxolotl ◴[] No.43950313[source]
I think the desire is a stupid one, not a malicious one. If you read through their documentation and their statements they seem to think this is a positive outcome and genuinely desire it.
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2. abakker ◴[] No.43950761[source]
yes. While the administration is full of wealthy people, the charity they need is all of us assuming they're not morons. Meanwhile, anyone who is not a moron and still feeling charitable is starting to question those assumptions.
3. justinrubek ◴[] No.43953933[source]
By the time the effects get to me, I think it is irrelevant which one of these it is. Functionally stupidity is malice here.
4. Yeul ◴[] No.43955010[source]
Nobody ever thinks that they are evil. It's all for the greater good!
5. bsder ◴[] No.43958347[source]
The point of Hanlon's Razor is that stupidity and malice are often indistinguishable and interchangeable.

It doesn't matter to someone getting the pointy end of the stick whether it happened out of malice or stupidity--the pointy end still hurts.