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afavour ◴[] No.43929124[source]
> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they don't wanna give us, also, control over the church."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-pope-could-it-be-american-c...

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refurb ◴[] No.43932802[source]
It’s funny seeing people talk about the decline of America. I can remember the same conversations in the 1970’s, late 2000’s as well.
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kashunstva ◴[] No.43933034[source]
> I can remember the same conversations…

Do you remember a president from those eras who when asked whether he believed that he was duty bound to uphold the Constitution answered “I don’t know.”?

> It’s funny seeing people talk about the decline of America.

Funny? I’d rather say it’s pretty sad.

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parineum ◴[] No.43934325[source]
He said the quiet part out loud but that doesn't change the fact that presidents have been ignoring the constitution for decades.

It's a trivial example but Biden trying to unilaterally declare the ERA law was absurd and his student loan forgiveness was obviously going to be found unconditional and he did it anyway.

Those aren't the actions of someone who takes the constitution seriously.

Nevermind the patriot act...

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dessimus ◴[] No.43934448[source]
> Nevermind the patriot act...

Whether you agree with it or not, at least the Patriot Act was passed by Congress and not simply Executive Orders because it's too inconvenient to work with Congress on legislation.

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WrongAssumption ◴[] No.43935043[source]
I don’t know that the majority of congress choosing to violate the constitution really makes your point.
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croon ◴[] No.43935695{6}[source]
It passed the house with 357–66 and senate with 98–1. That's well passed the required two thirds for passing an amendment if they wanted to.

I'm as critical as anyone, but GP's point stands.

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1. refurb ◴[] No.43942458{7}[source]
Amendments need more than Congressional approval