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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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ralfd ◴[08 May 25 18:25 UTC] No.43929524[source]▶
Is Pope Leo eligible to be voted President of the United States?
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90s_dev ◴[08 May 25 19:34 UTC] No.43930399[source]▶
Why would that even be a good thing? Religion is inherently above politics. Politics is concerned for the temporal good of its subjects.

Religion is concerned for the ethical and spiritual good of its subjects. Politics are short sighted and can never produce a paradise. Religion can produce a paradise in the soul of one even in the worst political and economic circumstances.

Jesus was homeless and broke.

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1. soulofmischief ◴[10 May 25 00:56 UTC] No.43942380[source]▶
That doesn't seem to mesh with the fact that religion has historically been deeply tied to politics and governance. Meddling in political affairs is a routine thing for organized religions. The very existence of the Pope is a power play designed to make the Church's power seem more legitimate and justified than politicians.

Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_tur...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn

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2. 90s_dev ◴[10 May 25 11:59 UTC] No.43944976[source]▶
The existence of the Pope is inherent in the need for doctrinal and disciplinary unity. Otherwise when there's a dispute over whether to obey a pastor or whether he's correct about something in faith or morals, there's no arbiter, so the church splits in two, and it continues on the pattern of cancer. Naturally there will be faithless people in the church who use such positions as if they were political, but only because "if there is no resurrection, then let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die" and politics is the most obvious way of ensuring that luxury.
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3. soulofmischief ◴[12 May 25 08:07 UTC] No.43960657[source]▶
How does this account for the numerous splits from the Church in the last 2 millennia?
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4. 90s_dev ◴[13 May 25 16:23 UTC] No.43974637{3}[source]▶
Fallen human nature and all its corrupt motives accounts for that. The most obvious being that a good number of religious leaders have no interest in truth and are fine with causing division as long as it profits them.
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5. soulofmischief ◴[14 May 25 04:29 UTC] No.43980816{4}[source]▶
I thought your thesis was that the Pope was supposed to protect the Church from that.