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sherdil2022 ◴[09 May 25 17:47 UTC] No.43939373[source]▶
This can happen to anyone. Why is there no widespread concern or consternation about what the 1998 movie ‘enemy of the state’ predicted to happen?
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wizzwizz4 ◴[09 May 25 17:50 UTC] No.43939396[source]▶
There is widespread concern. It's just not reported, because that's not a news story. If you're in the US, get together with your local community and do something about this (e.g. establish / repurpose a neighbourhood watch), before it's too late.
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dragonwriter ◴[09 May 25 17:55 UTC] No.43939440[source]▶
> There is widespread concern. It's just not reported, because that's not a news story.

No, it is annews story, and widepsread concerns are often reported on; its not widely reported on because the media is a mix of institutiins which tend to be either in support of the Administration doing it or in fear of being targeted in retaliation for reporting on topics like that.

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EnPissant ◴[09 May 25 18:00 UTC] No.43939506[source]▶
> its not widely reported on because the media is a mix of institutiins which tend to be either in support of the Administration doing it or in fear of being targeted in retaliation for reporting on topics like that.

Here is a list of major news media outlets from Wikipedia[1].

Which of the following do you think either supports the current administration or fears being targeted by it?

ABC News, CBS News, CNN, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, NBC News, The New York Times, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Politico, Bloomberg, Vice News, HBO, HuffPost, TMZ, CNET, NPR, The Hollywood Reporter, Newsweek, The New Yorker, Time , U.S. News & World Report

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_media_in_the_United_State...

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sorcerer-mar ◴[09 May 25 18:07 UTC] No.43939571[source]▶
Fox News supports and many of the others fear being targeted by it, some are a bit in between like Washington Post and LA Times (billionaire owners sucking up to the dictator, as is tradition when such regimes rise to power)

Unless you think threats of DOJ investigation, pulling broadcast licenses, or extremely expensive lawsuits don't produce fear? In that case you should let authoritarians know their playbook is out of date. Of course it's not, which is why authoritarians follow such a distinct pattern.

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EnPissant ◴[09 May 25 18:21 UTC] No.43939675[source]▶
Look at the first 30 headlines when searching for Trump on the Washington Post and tell me they fear him in any way: https://www.washingtonpost.com/search/?query=trump

I suspect people will say they are critical of him, but "not enough" or cherry-pick 1 or 2 neutral headlines in a sea of critical ones.

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1. sorcerer-mar ◴[09 May 25 18:36 UTC] No.43939776[source]▶
No no, for WaPo one need only know that Bezos spiked the Editorial Board's endorsement of Harris and then Blue Origin executives met with the Trump campaign literally hours later.

Oh yeah and that they wouldn't publish a cartoon poking fun at the kleptocracy. The artist resigned in protest and went on to win a Pulitzer, which WaPo had no problem taking credit for.

Is it fair to say that Navalny didn't fear Putin because he was actually quite vocal against Putin?

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3. EnPissant ◴[09 May 25 22:20 UTC] No.43941458[source]▶
I see. So "not enough" then.
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4. sorcerer-mar ◴[09 May 25 22:48 UTC] No.43941639[source]▶
Nope, that's actually not what I said. Nice try though!
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5. EnPissant ◴[10 May 25 00:15 UTC] No.43942166{3}[source]▶
So the Washington Post is extremely anti-Trump but once or twice the owner stepped in and forced them to remain neutral _maybe_ so as not to jeopardize government contracts for one of his other companies. But also there was a big backlash, and he probably could never do this again or the very least extremely infrequently?
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6. sorcerer-mar ◴[10 May 25 01:18 UTC] No.43942488{4}[source]▶
> So the Washington Post… owner stepped in… so as not to jeopardize government contracts for one of his other companies

I see. So “in fear of being targeted in retaliation” then?