Man 'Disappeared' by ICE Was on El Salvador Flight Manifest, Hacked Data Shows

~30-35% of people like this sort of thing because it makes them feel powerful by proxy.

~20% are fatalists who think there's nothing you can do about it and just want to keep their head down and out of trouble.

Maybe 20% are naive people who don't get it and another 20% are hand-wringers who don't know what to do about it.

Fewer than 20% are able to comprehend, speak out, and organize against it and it's hard for them to make their voices heard enough to build a coalition that outnumbers the first group.

If people don't think that their voices will be heard, then surely action is required instead.

From the outside, it looks like there's a few protests, but nothing particularly decisive. To my mind, the next step is rioting, although that will likely lead to martial law being imposed. However, it looks to me like ICE agents are pretty much acting like martial law has been declared.

Ok. I don't say it very often that is some ridiculously bad advice. Technically, it is also a call to vandalism. I urge those reading this and considering parent's words in good faith to think thrice before engaging in summer of love 2.

You mean Summer of Love 3? We've already had Summer of Love 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Summer_of_Love

My point wasn't "you should do this specific vandalism". My point was "if you're breaking the law, you might as well be smart about it". Damaging an enemy's car in an obvious way, to keep them from getting to work (without putting them at risk), is more effective than burning some random, unaffiliated storefront.

I originally said "slash" because (if you're carrying a sharp thing) it's quicker and easier than "deflate" – but I wasn't taking my own advice. Turning intact tyres into hazardous waste is suboptimal, and property damage that isn't necessary is a failure to de-escalate. (Besides that: carrying a knife seems unnecessarily risky. Which headline is better? "ICE agents defend themselves against knife-wielding activist", or "Possession of lentils now a crime"?)

You have a point. I accept the correction. That you for responding. I admit I am a little more skittish lately as it seems everyone and their mother seem to be.. maybe not waiting exactly, but expecting something to happen.

Advice from a normal person: Don’t riot. It only hurts your cause and turns a majority of the population against you, no matter how just you may be.

And in our current case, causes the Administration to crack down harder. Against rioters. Against illegals and those deemed to be illegals.

Agreed, just lay down and take it. Be polite and docile all the way to the gas chamber.

> "everyone and their mother seem to be.. maybe not waiting exactly, but expecting something to happen."

They are stunned by disbelief or ill-conceived happiness. The former are waiting for the Dems to do something, which won't happen. At most, they'd pull some sort of reverse Jan 6, which will help Trump and/or the neolibs who secretly support similar policies.

BTW, that lentils thing is dumber than the vegetable, the effects would be no better than open riots. No violence, property damage or "sit on the road" type of disruptions can do any good in the current situation. Lawyers, truthful propaganda and organization can help but these are in short supply and "tariffed" extensively.