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oxqbldpxo ◴[] No.43936544[source]
Is there a future where we stop buying so much garbage?
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havblue ◴[] No.43936694[source]
If we can promote right to repair a bit more, we could actually talk about this.
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barbazoo ◴[] No.43937154[source]
Consumerism can be avoided regardless of right to repair legislation. We just stop buying shit we don’t really need which is most of what people buy on Amazon I imagine.
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tombert ◴[] No.43937392[source]
If your argument begins with "people should just..." then generally you've already lost the argument. The fact is that people aren't doing whatever you're suggesting, for whatever reason, and no amount of righteous indignation is going to suddenly make people change that. I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that.

In this case, legislation could help ameliorate this problem, and maybe taxing the actual cost of things (e.g. environmental impact) instead of just letting the future generations deal with it.

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s1artibartfast ◴[] No.43938237[source]
sounds like you are saying that "people should just" stop making that argument and that "people should just" pass legislation.

Most of what you said can be applied reflexively.

Humans will and agency is the foundation of society. It is required to pass legislation or taxes as well.

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havblue ◴[] No.43938495[source]
At the risk of splitting hairs, I was suggesting that people "promote the right to repair" more and not necessarily "pass legislation". While I agree that it's a good goal to buy less plastic junk, the subject probably needs more of a positive narrative behind it to gain traction. Repairability is a positive way to look at our stuff (eg speed queens and Toyotas last forever!). Plastic junk is a negative.
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1. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.43938921[source]
We probably agree in our interests. Almost nobody is for "plastic junk", described as such. Im not opposed to repair rights in general. I think it is relatively niche, but that isn't a reason to oppose it (people can be for multiple thing).

What I do think is powerful is cultivating anti-consumerism or selective consumption behavior and belief. The desire for reparability falls within within this.