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oxqbldpxo ◴[] No.43936544[source]
Is there a future where we stop buying so much garbage?
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havblue ◴[] No.43936694[source]
If we can promote right to repair a bit more, we could actually talk about this.
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barbazoo ◴[] No.43937154[source]
Consumerism can be avoided regardless of right to repair legislation. We just stop buying shit we don’t really need which is most of what people buy on Amazon I imagine.
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tombert ◴[] No.43937392[source]
If your argument begins with "people should just..." then generally you've already lost the argument. The fact is that people aren't doing whatever you're suggesting, for whatever reason, and no amount of righteous indignation is going to suddenly make people change that. I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that.

In this case, legislation could help ameliorate this problem, and maybe taxing the actual cost of things (e.g. environmental impact) instead of just letting the future generations deal with it.

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1. barbazoo ◴[] No.43938238[source]
> I guess you can sit there smug and feel good about yourself, and that's worth something, but you can't expect people to give a shit about that.

You can assume that that’s the kind of person you’re conversing with but you’d be wrong.

I agree with you on taxing things to account and pay for externalities.

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2. tombert ◴[] No.43939449[source]
Sorry, I think I read a bit more indignation in your message than you intended.

I mostly have a visceral reaction to "people should just.." arguments because I heard stuff like that brought up a lot during abortion arguments, particularly in regards to birth control.

"Teenagers should just stop having sex!!" was something I thought was particularly dumb, because a) have they never been a teenager? that's all a lot of them think about cuz hormones and b) whether or not they should, they're going to anyway.

Anyway, sorry for the kind of pissy response, no offense meant.