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afavour ◴[] No.43929124[source]
> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they don't wanna give us, also, control over the church."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-pope-could-it-be-american-c...

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raddan[dead post] ◴[] No.43930430[source]
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dragonwriter ◴[] No.43930947[source]
> I guess I interpret it as "America has gone into political decline." I'm a bit surprised to hear a Trump appointee say that

What do you think the premise of the motto Make America Great Again is? The difference between Trumpists and others who see a decline is that the former see the 2016 and 2024 elections as reverses in the decline, whereas other see them as sources or exacerbations.

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SirensOfTitan ◴[] No.43931811[source]
Anyone who sees Trump as either an aberration or a savior is deeply deluded on the state of America.

In my opinion, the US world order’s decay was unmasked in 2008, and it has been accelerating since. The two economic realities between the poor rural America and the rich coastal cities (and even within them there is so much clear wealth disparity) have only gotten worse, and the political and bureaucratic system isn’t really capable of skillfully dealing with it.

Trump actually speaks to the realities that few politicians will (Bernie Sanders did too in 2016, hence his appeal), though his prescribed solutions are likely just accelerating the country’s demise.

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1. watwut ◴[] No.43934502[source]
It is not primary about economy or powerty. That one is an excuse, a rationalization.