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vFunct ◴[] No.43929103[source]
The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.
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soulofmischief ◴[] No.43929283[source]
When you're under its thumb of oppression, all of the aesthetic takes on a very dark and sinister authoritarian tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of repression and coercion. Source: raised by an extremely abusive Catholic deacon.
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moralestapia ◴[] No.43929357[source]
When you're embraced by its grace, all of the aesthetic takes on a very bright and uplifting inspirational tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of guidance and empowerment. Source: raised by an extremely loving Catholic mother.
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StefanBatory ◴[] No.43929661[source]
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nessbot ◴[] No.43929795[source]
No fan of the RC church here but I didn't hear any mocking. Just pointing out a counterfactual experience.
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HaZeust ◴[] No.43929863[source]
No one would have this loaded tone when counteracting someone's trauma in ANY subject - besides that of religion. It is a subject with a uniquely deep entrenchment of someone's fundamental life experiences and beliefs, and is the only subject where someone would have the gall to do such a thing; out of defense of, what they believe, is their very essence as a person.

There is absolutely no shot that someone would respond to someone sexually abused by their parents with, "On the other hand, I have a loving spouse that makes that same action a very loving and peaceful experience!" It's brazenly distasteful.

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khazhoux ◴[] No.43930030[source]
There was no mention of sexual abuse.
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HaZeust ◴[] No.43930073[source]
We call those "analogies", my friend.

When someone shares that their time in the Church was marked by coercion and abuse, responding with “well, my experience was uplifting” can feel dismissive of their trauma. It’s similar to hearing a survivor of sexual assault and replying, “my sexual experiences have all been wonderful.” Both experiences can coexist as true, but leading with your positive story in that moment risks minimizing the other person’s pain. It's distasteful, and is not conducive to a productive dialogue.

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