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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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606 points saikatsg | 3 comments | 08 May 25 16:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.211s | source
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vFunct ◴[08 May 25 17:52 UTC] No.43929103[source]▶
The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.
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soulofmischief ◴[08 May 25 18:06 UTC] No.43929283[source]▶
When you're under its thumb of oppression, all of the aesthetic takes on a very dark and sinister authoritarian tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of repression and coercion. Source: raised by an extremely abusive Catholic deacon.
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moralestapia ◴[08 May 25 18:12 UTC] No.43929357[source]▶
When you're embraced by its grace, all of the aesthetic takes on a very bright and uplifting inspirational tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of guidance and empowerment. Source: raised by an extremely loving Catholic mother.
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chambers ◴[08 May 25 23:57 UTC] No.43932532[source]▶
I was also raised by a loving catholic mother, who let me go my way, out of the church. I eventually found my way back in, and feel similar to you as you do now.

IMHO, the GP has a right to share his experience here as we do ours. A thread on the election of a pope, with a subthread on the beauty of church, is a fair venue for sharing. There's no need for prejudice, disguised as policing, on either side.

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1. moralestapia ◴[09 May 25 03:59 UTC] No.43933685[source]▶
Absolutely, there is nothing wrong with letting others know the other side of the coin. Moreover, I have done that respectfully, I never diminished the other guys' experience or called him fake or anything. He's mocking me in another comment already ... the tolerant ones.

This is a thread about the Pope, why wouldn't people be allowed to say good things about the religion it leads?

But guess what, some invisible hand hid my comments, even though the one where I expressed my opinion has more upvotes than downvotes and is not even flagged (cc @dang, perhaps you know what happened?). Is it breaking a policy? How is it different from the comment from @soulofmischief? Very tricky situation to be in, I can understand why someone would prefer to just hide it all.

I'm honestly tired of all this "I'm catholic and I am involved in the church" being enough to warrant attacks from random strangers.

Good news is the pendulum is swinging back, and it's swinging back hard! Deus vult! :D

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2. soulofmischief ◴[09 May 25 05:17 UTC] No.43933986[source]▶
> He's mocking me in another comment already ... the tolerant ones

No one is mocking you. You appear to have some sort of persecution complex, and are using it to shield you from having to earnestly engage with my replies. You're literally suggesting there is some kind of conspiracy to be unfair against you. I have not downvoted or flagged any of your comments. Perhaps you should consider the wisdom of the crowd and open yourself to criticism.

> I'm honestly tired of all this "I'm catholic and I am involved in the church" being enough to warrant attacks from random strangers.

You didn't have to reply to my comment with an ignorant, invalidating, dismissive and patronizing take. That was your choice, and the consequence is that people might reply to you in order to point out faults in your attitude and message.

Just because you thought you were well-meaning doesn't mean you were. Your sour approach to discourse has made itself apparent in this thread. Many perpetrators of the Crusades also thought they were doing a good deed.

3. chambers ◴[09 May 25 06:44 UTC] No.43934379[source]▶
Ah, I didn't meant to imply you did something wrong. I thought you were right to share.

Rather, I saw the start of a flamewar below (not caused by you) and I figured I'd say my piece. But it came out wrong and you got flagged undeservingly.

Sorry about that :\