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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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606 points saikatsg | 1 comments | 08 May 25 16:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.202s | source
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vFunct ◴[08 May 25 17:52 UTC] No.43929103[source]▶
The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.
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soulofmischief ◴[08 May 25 18:06 UTC] No.43929283[source]▶
When you're under its thumb of oppression, all of the aesthetic takes on a very dark and sinister authoritarian tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of repression and coercion. Source: raised by an extremely abusive Catholic deacon.
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bigstrat2003 ◴[08 May 25 18:13 UTC] No.43929371[source]▶
That's true of literally everything though. No matter the environment you were raised in, having abusive parents will cause instinctive emotional repulsion to the things they filled their life with.
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1. soulofmischief ◴[09 May 25 03:50 UTC] No.43933650[source]▶
The reason I bring it up is because of the deep relationship between aesthetics and institutional control. At one time these aesthetics were meant to enforce a classist, autocratic governance rooted in deception, oppression and information asymmetry.

The designs look nice, gold looks nice, the pope has some nice swag, but it's all a symbol of power. It's easy to forget that when you're lost in the sauce. SS uniforms looked slick as hell as far as uniforms go, but I wouldn't debate with a Holocaust survivor about why they should see the good in Nazis. The other people in this thread seem to have forgotten about the Crusades.