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nathell ◴[] No.43928925[source]
From [0]:

> Rev. Robert Prevost bears responsibility for allowing former Providence Catholic H.S. President and priest Richard McGrath to stay at the high school amidst sex abuse allegations that dated back to the 1990s.

> That's according to Eduardo Lopez de Casas, a clergy abuse survivor and national vice president of the Chicago-based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP).

[0]: https://willcountygazette.com/stories/671124585-if-he-saw-an...

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matthewmacleod ◴[] No.43928967[source]
Yes, but find a catholic priest who doesn’t share that responsibility.
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Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43929023[source]
There are several important American bishops who have made serious strides to protect children. This is an ignorant statement.
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Henchman21[dead post] ◴[] No.43930254[source]
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Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43930419[source]
I am not Catholic and priests should be permitted to marry.

The zeitgeist is inaccurate. Sexual abuse and subsequent cover ups were a massive problem that has largely been addressed, but the numbers of offenders are proportionally lower than those in public schools. From wikipedia:

"Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft, the author of a 2002 report on sexual offenses in schools, said sexual violence is much more prevalent in schools than in the Church.[315] Ernie Allen, former president of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, stated: "we don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this [sexual abuse and pedophilia] or as a place that has a bigger problem [with this issue] than anyone else."[316]"

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ImJamal ◴[] No.43931125[source]
> I am not Catholic and priests should be permitted to marry

Doesn't seem likely since none of the Churches that existed prior to the Protestant Reformation allow it.

All of the ancient churches, including the Catholic Church, do allow men who are already married to become priests. The rules are more strict for Catholics than the others.

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Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43931508[source]
This is an overgeneralization. By the fourth century it became standard to forbid marriage because was believed that previously permitted marriage was only for individuals who remained celibate within the marriage.

I find this to be unlikely.

This position also ignores the East, as we tend to do, although I will admit they understood themselves to be changing convention when permitting it.

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ImJamal ◴[] No.43932592[source]
I am talking about men who are already priests cannot marry. I think you are talking about men who are married becoming priests which is allowed in the Catholic Church and well as the East.

None of the Eastern churches allow priests to marry.

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1. Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43932659[source]
The Eastern Churches do allow their priests to have sexual relations with their wives after ordination.
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2. ImJamal ◴[] No.43933908[source]
So do Catholics including Latin rite priests?