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Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43928794[source]
The prevailing wisdom has been proven wrong on this occasion. He is very much a continuation of Francis's school of thought in spite of the "fat Pope thin Pope" wisdom, and he is an American who has been elected Pope, which was almost unthinkable because of America's economic, political, and mass media domination of the western world. Very unexpected
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throw310822 ◴[] No.43929218[source]
If he's on the same positions as Pope Francis but he's American, then this is a great move by the Catholic Church. Many Americans will naturally root for "their" Pope, and this will lead them away from the positions of Trump and the Evangelicals.
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1. thrance ◴[] No.43931406[source]
I doubt so, Christian Republicans conveniently ignore the parts of the Bible that directly contradict their ideology. How else could J.D. Vance consider himself a Catholic when his actions so directly go against the teachings of Christ?

More generally, I think religion doesn't really inform your political views. It can certainly reinforce them post-hoc, but it certainly isn't the basis of one's morality.

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2. throw310822 ◴[] No.43931635[source]
Well then, if organised religion has no sway on people's beliefs and actions, we can as well close the whole show and send home all those priests, bishops and cardinals, imams and mullahs, rabbis and brahmins, etc. etc.

The Pope, like most leaders, is not someone who has absolute power on what others should think and do; but is someone who can exercise a force of attraction in a specific direction. And he is very likely to have a stronger ability to attract and influence Americans because of his origins.

3. anthonymoose ◴[] No.43932320[source]
As a practicing Southern Baptist, I don’t find Vance’s political ideology contradicts Christ’s teachings.

Could you provide some good exemplar backed by scripture please? Preferably not cherry picked lines that tacitly support your earthly ideology, please.

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4. thrance ◴[] No.43932851[source]
https://www.ncronline.org/opinion/guest-voices/jd-vance-wron...

https://christiansforsocialaction.org/resource/false-god-con...

You can find many more online easily, but I won't waste more of my time providing them to you, as I doubt your enquiry was completely honest.

5. gambiting ◴[] No.43934462[source]
I absolutely don't mean this against you personally - but I don't find Southern Baptists to be following Christ's teachings either.
6. verzali ◴[] No.43934853[source]
This would be a good place for you to start: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205-7&v...
7. Boogie_Man ◴[] No.43938778[source]
I agree that your statement about religion not informing political views is true of many people. I would argue that the "standard" positions of both major parties in America have components which seriously contradict standard Christian teachings. If one wanted to find a party that more accurately reflected Christian positions they'd have to do something like vote for the American Solidary Party, which is arguably completely ineffective (I still did it).