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ninetyninenine ◴[] No.43822709[source]
Can he prove what he says? The foundation of his argument rests on hand waves and vague definitions on what a mind is and what a theory is that it ultimately goes nowhere. Then he makes a claim and doesn’t back it up.

I have a new concept for the author to understand: proof. He doesn’t have any.

Let me tell you something about LLMs. We don’t understand what’s going on internally. LLMs say things that are true and untrue just like humans do and we don’t know if what it says is a general lack of theory building ability or if it’s lying or if it has flickers of theory building and becomes delusional at other times. We literally do not know. The whole thing is a black box that we can only poke at.

What ticks me off is all these geniuses who write these blog posts with the authority of a know it all when clearly we have no fucking clue about what’s going on.

Even more genius is when he uses concepts like “mind” and “theory” building the most hand wavy disagreed upon words in existence and rest his foundations on these words when no people ever really agree on what these fucking things are.

You can muse philosophically all you want and in any direction but it’s all bs without definitive proof. It’s like religion. How people made up shit about nature because they didn’t truly understand nature. This is the idiocy with this article. It’s building a religious following and making wild claims without proof.

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1. turtlethink ◴[] No.43825952[source]
To add on that - the human mind is a black box that we don't understand, we don't know what's going in internally, and most descriptions like the one here are arbitrary, made up, and don't reflect reality
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2. ninetyninenine ◴[] No.43829217[source]
yep. Same principle. Totally agreed. The irony is that we feel we can make more claims about LLMs because we created LLMs. We created something that we don't understand.