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limbero ◴[] No.43805260[source]
This article reminds me of this excellent tongue-in-cheek piece of writing by Jonathan Zeller in McSweeney's:

Calm Down—Your Phone Isn’t Listening to Your Conversations. It’s Just Tracking Everything You Type, Every App You Use, Every Website You Visit, and Everywhere You Go in the Physical World

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/calm-down-your-phone-isn...

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Spooky23 ◴[] No.43806692[source]
There is so much time spent “debunking” audio recordings being shared with various entities it makes me more suspicious.

Just like Facebook’s “we never sell your data (we just stalk you and sell ads using your data)”. I’m sure there’s a similar weasel excuse… “we never listen to your audio (but we do analyze it to improve quality assurance)”

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LgWoodenBadger ◴[] No.43807661[source]
It’s similar with the TSA facial recognition photos. “We delete your photo immediately” but what they don’t say is that they don’t delete the biometrics from that photo.
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bsimpson ◴[] No.43807689[source]
It's a crime that were compelled to concede our 4th Amendment rights in order to travel.
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dangus ◴[] No.43809139{3}[source]
Literally not compelled in this case, the TSA signage says that the image capture is completely optional.

More generally, having your stuff screened for security to get on a commercial plane isn't a 4th amendment violation, the word "unreasonable" is right there in the amendment for a reason. You're in public in an enclosed flying object bringing your goods onto someone else's plane with 100+ strangers aboard, it is completely reasonable and necessary for the freedoms of everyone involved for the TSA to ensure that your stuff doesn't have dangerous objects aboard.

Don't forget that freedom also involves the freedom of other people to not be negatively impacted by you exercising your "freedom."

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teeray ◴[] No.43809158{4}[source]
Image capture is optional, your other option is something possibly unpleasant and may make you miss your flight
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dangus ◴[] No.43809194{5}[source]
That is not the other option at all. The other option is essentially just the traditional screening process.

> Standard ID credential verification is in place – Travelers who decide not to participate in the use of facial recognition technology will receive an alternative ID credential check by the TSO at the podium. The traveler will not experience any negative consequences for choosing not to participate. There is no issue and no delay with a traveler exercising their rights to not participate in the automated biometrics matching technology.

My goodness this thread is just the most annoying tinfoil hat thread I've seen all day. Y'all are spending too much time online.

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1. sneak ◴[] No.43812977{6}[source]
No, the TSA actively threatens you with unspecified additional hassle/delay if you express a desire to opt out.

They are also running facial recognition on all of those round just-above-eye-level camera pods all up and down the concourse.