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drgo ◴[] No.43801699[source]
The crisis in science can only be fixed by addressing the slew of bad incentives built into the system. We can't predicate job security, promotion and prestige of every early career scientist on publishing as many papers as possible, and on obtaining grants (which requires publishing as many papers as possible) and then expect high-quality science. We can't starve universities of public funding and expect them not to selectively hire scientists whose main skill is publishing hundreds of "exciting" papers, and not overproduce low-quality future "scientists" who were trained in the dark arts of academic survival. Reform is more urgent than ever; AI has essentially obsoleted the mental model that equates the count of published papers with productivity and quality.
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1. franktankbank ◴[] No.43803306[source]
How about punishment for terrible behavior. If you design bad experiments then why are you a researcher? Fired. If you commit fraud, fined and fired. Weed out these fuckers.
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2. White_Wolf ◴[] No.43805448[source]
I don't think you realise why researchers ended up in this situation.

You want to get a Phd? you have to publish something... anything.

You want money for experiments? You need publications even if you do the rest of the theoretical work on your own.

You want to get funds for some new or to continue some research? You need publications.

I'm not defending those that publish all sorts of crap as research but the whole system is rigged.

Everyone is asking for as many publications and citations as possible to even lend you a lab for 1 day to test something.

Excuse my language but what the f are you expecting?

Edit: formatting

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3. LorenPechtel ◴[] No.43807469[source]
Yup, doesn't matter if you want to be honest because you're competing against dishonest players. Anyone honest loses.