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tzs ◴[] No.43799641[source]
> Before being named U.S. attorney, Martin appeared on Russia-backed media networks more than 150 times, The Washington Post reported last week. In one appearance on RT in 2022, he said there was no evidence of military buildup on Ukraine’s boarders only nine days before Russia invaded the country. He further criticized U.S. officials as warmongering and ignoring Russia security concerns.

This is getting ridiculous. Is there anyone associated with this administration who does not have a record of promoting Russia's positions?

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NelsonMinar ◴[] No.43800099[source]
Martin was also at the coup attempt on Jan 6 and on that day said "Like Mardi Gras in DC today: love, faith and joy. Ignore #FakeNews". https://archive.ph/jekzQ
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kristopolous[dead post] ◴[] No.43800455[source]
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NelsonMinar ◴[] No.43800483{3}[source]
RT is not legit. It is Russian propaganda. When those people participated they were collaborators.
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roenxi ◴[] No.43801307{4}[source]
Ex-CIA head Brennan famously remarked in an MSNBC interview [0] that when he says something is a Russian information operation that includes dumping accurate information.

So really it isn't enough to identify something as Russian propaganda - it is necessary to analyse whether it is propaganda of the accurate and informative variety, or the inaccurate variety.

Propaganda really just means someone is arguing a viewpoint. The BBC is classic propaganda, but nonetheless a pretty reliable source of information and a lot of the views are very agreeable.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Shx2AR_E4

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foldr ◴[] No.43802236{5}[source]
The BBC isn’t propaganda. It has its biases for sure, but it doesn’t exist for the purpose of spreading a particular viewpoint. It’s good to be aware of media bias, but it’s reductive and cynical to view all media as propaganda.
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paganel ◴[] No.43802354[source]
> but it doesn’t exist for the purpose of spreading a particular viewpoint.

Id does exactly that, as does all State-supported media (such as RFI in France or Deutsche Welle in Germany).

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1. foldr ◴[] No.43802444[source]
The BBC’s editorial line isn’t determined by the government of the day. I’m not familiar with the output of examples you mention, but there’s no comparison with RT, which is simply a propaganda arm of the Russian state.
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2. paganel ◴[] No.43803834[source]
Then how come it lines up pretty closely with the British government’s views? See Covid, Ukraine and especially the genocide in Gaza.
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3. foldr ◴[] No.43804272[source]
It doesn’t. You can find people of all political stripes complaining about BBC journalism, including government ministers.