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shoozza ◴[] No.43799700[source]
Slightly off topic: Is D a good language for creating tiny windows or Linux executables? There is an upcoming game jam (4mb jam 2025) which gives extra points for game submissions <= 8KB. With c you can fit a window with graphics update in an executable of less than 900 bytes[0]. Granted it's using crinkler for linking which does some compression.

0: https://gist.github.com/ske2004/336d8cce8cd9db59d61ceb13c1ed...

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monkeyelite ◴[] No.43800232[source]
Yes. Just use the “better C” mode
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1. mariusor ◴[] No.43802106[source]
... which is not D any more though.
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2. WhereIsTheTruth ◴[] No.43802314[source]
It's like saying "C is no longer C if you don't link with libc", it just is not true at all, and honestly, a pretty stupid thing to say
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3. monkeyelite ◴[] No.43802699[source]
What essential features are missing for you?
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4. mariusor ◴[] No.43802753[source]
Instead of being an ass, maybe you can take the time to educate me why you think I'm wrong?

I think that at least the garbage collection not being available qualifies my statement as somewhat being true. For game development, as it's closer to what grand-parent asked, classes not being usable would also be an issue...

5. mariusor ◴[] No.43802765[source]
For game development? I imagine having to use only structs but not classes would be something that forces a "non idiomatic D" experience. Dynamic arrays sound like something that's very useful for a game. I don't know, there are plenty of features that are incompatible with better C that makes D, D. Generally speaking, garbage collection would be the biggest in my opinion.
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6. monkeyelite ◴[] No.43804002{3}[source]
Yeah this person is asking how to make the smallest executable. They don’t want garbage collection.
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7. mariusor ◴[] No.43804260{4}[source]
Garbage collection was about what I would be missing. I mentioned before what could be missing from OP's point of view.
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8. monkeyelite ◴[] No.43805125{5}[source]
Ok. I think the better C mode is cool and I think it’s worth a try for his interest and project.
9. WalterBright ◴[] No.43805612{3}[source]
You can still use classes in BetterC - you just have to allocate them yourself. D recently acquired "placement new" which makes that more convenient.