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jtrip ◴[] No.43799412[source]
The scale of deep body trauma that has been done to the US will not seem clear today, but it will have dire consequences for the future trajectory of US. I am sad for this, for the current status quo I was born under, but I suppose History must happen.
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sneak ◴[] No.43799559[source]
The US has not been a force for good in the world in some time, if ever.

Unfortunately for Americans, it has to get worse before it can get better. Much worse.

The institutions are deeply corrupt, and have been for decades. They must be destroyed and possibly replaced. It sucks, and it will hurt. It may even possibly require an entire revolution, as many of the deeply evil US institutions such as the CIA and FBI are so deeply and tightly integrated with the federal government that it may require destruction of the state itself.

The status quo has been comfy for a lot of Americans, but the world as a whole is not a better place because Facebook and Lockheed and the US CIA exist.

This has been pending for most of a century.

What comes after will be more transparent, more fair, and more integrated with society.

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consumer451 ◴[] No.43799601[source]
> What comes after will be more transparent, more fair, and more integrated with society.

Can you walk me through how you see this playing out, step-by-step?

I want to believe!

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1. energy123 ◴[] No.43800573[source]
Revolutionaries tend to suffer from extreme naivete or arrogance. They don't understand that idealists like them usually get pushed aside or killed by the real crazies during the power vacuum stage, then the country becomes significantly worse. It's happened so many times in history. Until the US starts killing half of its population like Pol Pot did it can always get worse.