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jmclnx ◴[] No.43799332[source]
Well seems the war on truth has started. There is a 1984 quote about history that escapes me now.
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Alupis[dead post] ◴[] No.43799397[source]
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Loughla ◴[] No.43799504[source]
His argument is that Trump is being criticized more for being controversial than Obama.

Honestly. Is Trump not more controversial than Obama?

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hagbard_c ◴[] No.43799614[source]
No, that depends on your viewpoint. Those who come from a "democrat" background will certainly consider Trump to be more controversial than Obama while those from a Republican background will see Obama - especially second-term Obama - as far more controversial than Trump. Independents will vary on their interpretation but Obama is not likely to end up in the history books as the 'Change agent' he promised to be and will mostly likely be seen as partly responsible for the deterioration of race relations in the USA due to his use of and support for identity politics in a (successful) attempt to win a second period by cobbling together the 'coalition of the oppressed'.

How Trump will end up in the history books wholly depends on whether he succeeds in his attempts to curtail globalism and save the USA from becoming insolvent due to the rising debt. If the economy fails his presidency will as well and with that he'll be remembered for all the controversy around his political career. If he succeeds he'll be seen as a 'realpolitiker' who pulled the USA out of the downward spiral it had been in since ... the late 90's? The end of the cold war?

Of course there is also the chance of a large-scale conflict breaking out during his watch in which case his place in the history books also depends on how that ends.

Time will tell.

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1. habinero ◴[] No.43799640[source]
> partly responsible for the deterioration of race relations in the USA

This is just a euphemism for "he was black in public and lesser white people didn't like it".

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2. SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.43799688[source]
No, that's not accurate. When people talk about the "deterioration of race relations", they're referring to a well-documented phenomenon (https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx) where poll respondents say race relations are bad (and trending downwards) since 2015 while they were good from 2001 to 2013. I'm skeptical that Obama bears any responsibility for this, given that the trend didn't start until his second term, but it's a real trend and not a euphemism.