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How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2

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1371 points yett | 1 comments | 23 Apr 25 14:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.223s | source
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amenghra ◴[23 Apr 25 18:08 UTC] No.43774928[source]▶
IMHO, if something isn’t part of the contract, it should be randomized. Eg if iteration order of maps isn’t guaranteed in your language, then your language should go out of its way to randomize it. Otherwise, you end up with brittle code: code that works fine until it doesn’t.
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willcipriano ◴[23 Apr 25 18:59 UTC] No.43775510[source]▶
Then you are wasting runtime clock cycles randomizing lists.
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1. Cthulhu_ ◴[23 Apr 25 19:56 UTC] No.43776036[source]▶
Not necessarily; you can do a thing where it's randomized during development, testing and fuzzing but not in production builds or benchmarks so that the obvious "I rely on internal map order" bugs are spotted right away.