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Open Source Projects Receive Funding to Reclaim the Public Internet

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473 points edent | 1 comments | 23 Apr 25 07:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.224s | source
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hello_computer ◴[23 Apr 25 10:35 UTC] No.43770519[source]▶
Money down the toilet. Job #1 is to make a google replacement. Job #2, a domestic phone manufacturer (with its own plaftorm / appstore). These are the two primary portals to "The Internet". Without meaningful replacements, they're still on Uncle Sam's plantation. China figured that out a long time ago, and is in a far better position to digitally de-couple from the United States.

They are so far behind. Focus! Spitballing 42 random projects is a luxury Europe does not have.

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sidibe ◴[23 Apr 25 12:57 UTC] No.43771608[source]▶
China got there by banning Google. I don't think Europe is willing or able to do that unless Trump antagonism continues for years. Practically noone who has a choice (people in Singapore and Taiwan) between them uses Baidu
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bluGill ◴[23 Apr 25 13:52 UTC] No.43772218[source]▶
Trump has a 25% chance of dieing of old age before his term ends. It is unlikely that the US will relax the 2 terms max for president allowing him a second term. If Trump is your worry then you can just wait him out. The real question is will others like Trump get into power next or not, and if so how like Trump are they? (I cannot answer that)
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finnjohnsen2 ◴[23 Apr 25 15:15 UTC] No.43773145[source]▶
I would certainly not bet on MAGA be gone post Trump. Firstly VP JD Vance is just as hostile, and ready to take over during Trumps term should anything happen.

Regardless, these euro-hostile MAGA voters will still breathe, eat and vote republican for the rest of my lifetime.

We should prepare in Europe for a future without the US in my opinion. Like China, but not, since the EU is about openness and freedom.

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1. bluGill ◴[23 Apr 25 16:43 UTC] No.43773996[source]▶
They will not be gone, the question is will they be large enough to get power.

Several people who I know who voted for Trump (not a representative sample!) do not like what he is doing with tariffs (they are not Euro-hostile) but they are worried about the border. They would support someone else if that person "fixed the border" without raising tariffs. There is also the possibility that someone could convince them that the border isn't a problem (or something else is more important).

I know a couple people who voted for Trump the person. They don't see Vance in the same way and so won't be excited to vote for him.

Only time will tell. However remember that this too shall pass. There will be a different crisis in a few years.