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Pope Francis has died

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jimmcslim ◴[] No.43750835[source]
The Vatican published an interesting document on AI [1], which attributes a number of quotes to Pope Francis:

* As Pope Francis noted, the machine “makes a technical choice among several possibilities based either on well-defined criteria or on statistical inferences. Human beings, however, not only choose, but in their hearts are capable of deciding."

* In light of this, the use of AI, as Pope Francis said, must be “accompanied by an ethic inspired by a vision of the common good, an ethic of freedom, responsibility, and fraternity, capable of fostering the full development of people in relation to others and to the whole of creation.”

* As Pope Francis observes, “in this age of artificial intelligence, we cannot forget that poetry and love are necessary to save our humanity.”

* As Pope Francis observes, “the very use of the word ‘intelligence’” in connection with AI “can prove misleading”

[1] https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu...

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1. chaorace ◴[] No.43753454[source]
I rarely feel this way about someone of Pope Francis' age and social position, but I've genuinely admired Francis as a thinker. He was a bona fide Jesuit, through and through. The next pope has big shoes to fill.
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2. neves ◴[] No.43754097[source]
Note that Antiqua et Nova was authored by the Church. With its profound philosophical tradition, the Church offers insights in this text that surpass anything ever written by Silicon Valley entrepreneurs.
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3. senderista ◴[] No.43754483[source]
Benedict seemed more academic, but Francis seemed more humane.
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4. lanstin ◴[] No.43755116[source]
Academic thought != clear, deep thought. Working out all the details is good, but getting to the crux of the matter is also needed.
5. lo_zamoyski ◴[] No.43755226[source]
Indeed.

I’ll also add that many of his admirers as well as his detractors exaggerated his virtues, his merits, and his flaws. He was both the victim of a media and film industry all too eager to spin him into the “progressive pope” — never shying away from quoting him out of context to push an agenda — and the issuer of problematic and ambiguous documents and off-the-cuff remarks that only served to generate confusion.

Intellectually, Benedict XVI and John Paul II were in a different league. As far as the Jesuits are concerned, I know that in the popular imagination, the Jesuits are imagined to be some kind of “progressive”, intellectually superior order, but historically, they were sort of the shock troops of the Church. They certainly have merits to their name. While they did become involved in education, they drew from the traditions of education in the Church. Education and scholarship, however, are not their charism. Compare that with the Dominicans, for example, who have teaching and education as their mission (Thomas Aquinas is probably their most famous member).

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6. andrepd ◴[] No.43757086[source]
> offers insights in this text that surpass anything ever written by Silicon Valley entrepreneurs

There's a low bar if there ever was one

7. andrepd ◴[] No.43757112{3}[source]
But jesuits are historically linked to education and the sciences, this is a fact.

I agree with the "ambiguous statements" though.

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8. aredox ◴[] No.43760253[source]
I have heard yesterday on some Catholic TV channel that Benedict had already done the theological clarification work during his mandate, and that Francis - who was already the runner-up to Benedict and knew he was likely to be next in line - knew his task would be more about preaching - thus his strong media game (and as he person it suited him well too, he seemed really approchable and outgoing).
9. lo_zamoyski ◴[] No.43762040{4}[source]
> But jesuits are historically linked to education and the sciences, this is a fact.

Isn't that what I said? I merely said it is not their charism, not their specialty. The point is that in the popular imagination, people elevate them above orders who not only have a better historical record, but whose mission is to educate, study, etc.

That isn't to downplay the good contributions of the Jesuits, but I can point you to Jesuits (who, as an order, are in poor shape these days, tbh) who would say the same thing. The popular imagination is simply ignorant or tendentious on this point in its exaggeration relative to the others.

10. mvieira38 ◴[] No.43762178{3}[source]
Jesuit scholarship, especially in the last 100 years, is noteworthy for generating impressive literature while contributing close to nothing to the Church. See Rahner, Balthasar, de Lubac, Chardin... Garbage through and through