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Pope Francis has died

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carlos-menezes ◴[] No.43749613[source]
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-04/pope-francis...

> According to Archbishop Diego Ravelli, Master of Apostolic Ceremonies, the late Pope Francis had requested that the funeral rites be simplified and focused on expressing the faith of the Church in the Risen Body of Christ.

Always struck me as a simple man and that likely contributed to people liking him more when compared to his predecessors. RIP.

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jjude ◴[] No.43749684[source]
Pope John Paul II was also extremely popular across the world.
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carlos-menezes ◴[] No.43749792[source]
He was, but John Paul II was traditionally conservative. I think Francis resonated with more people–Christian or not–because he emphasized compassion, humility, and social justice.

He spoke more openly about issues like poverty, climate change, and inclusion–his encyclical LAUDATO SI’ is a great read–, and he often used language and gestures that the "common man" could relate to.

Perhaps the way he dressed so simply–with the plain white cassock–also emphasized his overall approach: less focus on grandeur, more on service.

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1. column ◴[] No.43750044[source]
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2. scrollop ◴[] No.43750065[source]
"telling Ukraine to "have the courage of the white flag"."

Perhaps he should have told Russia to have the "courage" to stop murdering people.

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3. redeeman ◴[] No.43750224[source]
do you think that would have even the slightest chance of changing anything?
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4. mgiannopoulos ◴[] No.43750367{3}[source]
So never speak against brutal aggressors who commit war crimes? That seems to be antithetical to Christian values.
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5. cheema33 ◴[] No.43750396[source]
> telling Ukraine to "have the courage of the white flag".

If an aggressor attacks your country, it takes courage to surrender. Churchill was a coward it seems. He could have surrendered to the Germans and saved so many lives on both sides.

/s

6. raverbashing ◴[] No.43750447{3}[source]
No but it puts the ball on their court
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7. gambiting ◴[] No.43751252{3}[source]
John Paul II is widely credited with helping Poland overthrow communism. While he won't change the world overnight, there are millions of people even in Russia who respect the Roman Catholic pope, even if they aren't Roman Catholics themselves.
8. weberer ◴[] No.43752031[source]
>Pope begs Putin to end 'spiral of violence and death'

https://web.archive.org/web/20230326034459/https://www.reute...

9. femiagbabiaka ◴[] No.43752854[source]
He did. Several times.
10. pc86 ◴[] No.43753158{4}[source]
The ball was never in the Catholic Church's court in the first place, so no it does not.
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11. im3w1l ◴[] No.43753369{3}[source]
Comdemning evil is an act with many purposes. Making the evil-doer change his mind is just one of possible benefit. Even if that is unlikely the other ones remain.

* People naturally imitate what they see others do. A condemnation can prevent others from imitating the evil act.

* A condemnation calls on others to resist and not facilitate the evil act.

* Condemning someone makes you enemies, in a way that is plain for everyone to see. This positioning can open up for alliance offers from others with similar beliefs.

Making someone an enemy comes with risks and drawbacks of course. You become less able to influence someone if you cut ties, hence why people suggest to try influencing in private first.

12. raverbashing ◴[] No.43756557{5}[source]
Neither is the Israel/Gaza conflict ball, doesn't preclude them from voicing their opinion on it
13. redeeman ◴[] No.43756807{4}[source]
where did I say that? I am merely saying, that what WAS said might have higher chance of helping
14. redeeman ◴[] No.43756815{4}[source]
no, it doesnt. What my point is, is that it would have done NOTHING, whereas the message he did send probably had higher chances, and is atleast something someone might listen to, even if they dont follow the advice.

(well except ofcourse the corrupt dictator in ukraine, so it naturally falls on deaf ears)