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Frieren ◴[] No.43748615[source]
It should be forbidden for all device manufacturers to make apps, tracking, registering, etc. mandatory.

Every TV, phone, camera, tablet, fridge, ... is becoming a spying device like in the worst scifi dystopias. And as soon as the company stops supporting them they become trash to pollute the planet so they can sell you the next one.

Regulations should have come a decade a go. We own nothing, we have no privacy, we are sold products 24/7. I will vote for a goverment that protects me of this total corporate surveillance. It is their duty towards citizens to do so.

And it will happen, like feudalism died this techno-feudalism will die too.

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inopinatus ◴[] No.43749036[source]
My vote could be swayed by a policy platform making it not merely forbidden, but outright criminal, to market software and hardware that cannot function without assignment of a user id. Everything from drones to games.

In many cases this would thoroughly annoy certain authoritarian regimes that are normalised as totalitarian surveillance states. Their exports would be disrupted. What a pity.

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1. beezlewax ◴[] No.43750014[source]
I agree with this. I have an LG TV it basically forces you to agree to sharing data to function everytime it update.

TVs are used by multiple people too so how does that even track legally.

My partners will fly through menus agreeing to everything if I'm not there.

I'm using a universal remote that doesn't have a microphone and it complains about that too.

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2. lazyeye ◴[] No.43750047[source]
I find a drop of superglue in the remote microphone is very helpful for retaining a basic level of privacy.
3. technothrasher ◴[] No.43750211[source]
My Pi-hole logs are filled mostly with my LG TV and my Roku box. I get literally thousands of hits a day with them trying to phone home.
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4. n3storm ◴[] No.43750382[source]
I have been using a linux minipc with debian+xfce for more than 15 years and no regrets. Yes having a keyboard with touchpad looked like a bit cumbersome at first, but then when al tvs went smart using an onscreen keyboard with a rf mouse is a nightmare.
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5. iugtmkbdfil834 ◴[] No.43750416[source]
Which is a genuine shame, since LG's webos was a breath of fresh air in an otherwise monolothic android market for smart tvs. I have an older one ( never updated, never connected ), but.. it is just one of many devices ( during easter yesterday I watched in weird state of drunken realization that the gizmo under tv is a set of cameras embedded into some external speakers ). I am officially out of touch with the current zeitgeist. Like... I knew I was an outlier before, but I honestly did not think it was this crazy.
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6. bayindirh ◴[] No.43750734[source]
The Sony TV I have a blaring LED when the microphone is active, and you need to pair it independently of the remote itself so these parts function.

Sometimes during software updates, this pairing is broken, and it never tells me that the pairing has been removed, and never forces me to pair the remote.

7. FloatArtifact ◴[] No.43750736{3}[source]
What do you do about Netflix or other apps? They have reduced video quality without being on a certified device.
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8. phkahler ◴[] No.43751227{4}[source]
Get a firestick for those apps
9. justinrubek ◴[] No.43751469{4}[source]
They've sealed their own fate with such a poor decision.
10. AngryData ◴[] No.43752204{3}[source]
I use a steam controller for controlling my media PC. Easy to type with and way more convenient than using a mouse. The only potential downside is needing steam running for keyboard capabilities but for me atleast that isn't a big deal.
11. queenkjuul ◴[] No.43752221[source]
The more you learn about smart TVs the worse they get. They're not cheap because TV technology got cheaper, they give away the TVs because they sell all your data. They even content match external sources over HDMI.

My next TV will be a big monitor.

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12. queenkjuul ◴[] No.43752235{4}[source]
This is why I've returned to the seven seas as well
13. areyourllySorry ◴[] No.43756150[source]
old webos you say? https://rootmy.tv/
14. hnburnsy ◴[] No.43758895[source]
Content matching refers to matching refresh rate and resolution on the input source to the TV, not content identification.
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15. queenkjuul ◴[] No.43759979{3}[source]
there are TVs doing content recognition