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Frieren ◴[] No.43748615[source]
It should be forbidden for all device manufacturers to make apps, tracking, registering, etc. mandatory.

Every TV, phone, camera, tablet, fridge, ... is becoming a spying device like in the worst scifi dystopias. And as soon as the company stops supporting them they become trash to pollute the planet so they can sell you the next one.

Regulations should have come a decade a go. We own nothing, we have no privacy, we are sold products 24/7. I will vote for a goverment that protects me of this total corporate surveillance. It is their duty towards citizens to do so.

And it will happen, like feudalism died this techno-feudalism will die too.

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loki49152 ◴[] No.43749141[source]
We don't need new regulations. This is probably covered by commercial fraud statutes, as they represented the sale of the device as a sale of tangible personal property. There is no condition required to complete that purchase - the offer is of the physical device and the implied ability to use that device for its obvious purpose.
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bryanrasmussen ◴[] No.43749193[source]
we need new regulations - the solution currently would be following what you say and suing the company in I guess small claims court or a class action suit for lots of people mad about the same thing against a single company that they make drag out for years while making money doing the same scam and then the payout will just be the cost of doing business.

The small claims courts solution of course not everybody has the time or resources to do that, so the company wins that way.

We need new regulations that stops it before it gets to the point where you have to go to small claims court or class action to redress the wrong.

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1. rendaw ◴[] No.43749326{3}[source]
New regulation i.e. more civil law. Which require you to sue in a small claims court to be enforced. How does this change anything, when as GP said there are already civil laws?
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2. bryanrasmussen ◴[] No.43750123[source]
many regulations are enforced by government agencies that prevent the product from being sold if they do not match the regulations, the civil laws the GP pointed to are contract laws which means that the buyer if they feel ripped off has to sue.
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3. queenkjuul ◴[] No.43752258[source]
There's isn't necessarily precedent showing the current behavior violates current laws. New laws can be more explicit
4. rendaw ◴[] No.43753542[source]
Oh, good point.