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354 points qingcharles | 11 comments | | HN request time: 0.747s | source | bottom
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Frieren ◴[] No.43748615[source]
It should be forbidden for all device manufacturers to make apps, tracking, registering, etc. mandatory.

Every TV, phone, camera, tablet, fridge, ... is becoming a spying device like in the worst scifi dystopias. And as soon as the company stops supporting them they become trash to pollute the planet so they can sell you the next one.

Regulations should have come a decade a go. We own nothing, we have no privacy, we are sold products 24/7. I will vote for a goverment that protects me of this total corporate surveillance. It is their duty towards citizens to do so.

And it will happen, like feudalism died this techno-feudalism will die too.

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1. rvba ◴[] No.43749184[source]
Also changing software and licences.

I bought an android phone that worked and soon it will reset every 3 days, so Im unreachable unless I enter the PIN. What kills the idea of having a secondary phone just in case.

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2. alpaca128 ◴[] No.43749329[source]
As far as I know an Android phone isn’t unreachable after reboot, it simply has the same locked screen as always. The only difference is the difficulty to unlock it without the PIN. So in your case it would reboot once (not every 3 days) and then just continue doing nothing.
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3. ChrisMarshallNY ◴[] No.43749430[source]
I own an iPhone (and iPad). It forces me to re-enter my device password, every couple of days. Has done that, for ages.

I think that can be disabled, though. I know of a couple of folks that won’t even enable Face ID. I think that’s insane. The phone has our entire life on it. The thought of having that much information available to any pickpocket is sobering.

I refuse to use custom apps for things like banking and store loyalty, etc. I keep a photo of my store loyalty card’s barcode in my Photos app, because it does get me significant discounts, occasionally, but I won’t install their app.

Most of these custom apps seem to be pretty shoddy quality, in my opinion (I’m a snob, though. Many folks don’t seem to mind). They seem to be written with some kind of hybrid system, and some are little more than webviews.

4. stavros ◴[] No.43749534[source]
Or you can just disable the feature. Let's not brand every security feature as evil, please, it's disingenuous.
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5. poincaredisk ◴[] No.43749785[source]
Well after the reboot Android enters the Before First Unlock state which is significantly more secure. I don't know if that influences the ability to receive regular phone calls, but I'm pretty sure Whatsapp/signal calls won't work.
6. Zambyte ◴[] No.43750337[source]
It was not clear from a recently posted article on the matter that this would be a setting, but from the change log it does appear that it can be switched off.

> Enables a future optional security feature, which will automatically restart your device if locked for 3 consecutive days.

https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/1434... (archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20250421103659/https://support.g...)

7. aaronmdjones ◴[] No.43750410[source]
It will only reset every 3 days if you don't unlock it. I'm pretty sure most people unlock their phones within 3 days. There are some concerns from people using their phones as unattended mobile hotspots; this concern is valid there. However you can just disable the device PIN or turn off the feature in this case.
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8. iugtmkbdfil834 ◴[] No.43750443[source]
Ah. Now this finally makes more sense than generic 'its for your security'.
9. bambax ◴[] No.43750554[source]
What's disingenuous is the opposite: using the excuse of security to force more and more user hostile spying features on every device. Same with children.
10. rvba ◴[] No.43755045[source]
I dont unlock the secondary phone. Only charge it every few days.

Disabling the PIN reduces security (what kind of "hacker" gives such bad advice?).

I bet we wont be able to disable that feature in few months.

Pain in the butt with work phone too - take 3 day holidays and it stopps working.

Bad feature created by people who dont think.

11. rvba ◴[] No.43755084[source]
You can disable it now.

In few months the option will just disappear?