The effect of deactivating Facebook and Instagram on users' emotional state

Same with stopping replyhing to HN. I just downvote and upvote. Emotional stress significantly reduced.

but then.... how did you say this!?!?!! and how will you answer this question!?!???!???!

>Same with stopping replyhing to HN. I just downvote and upvote.

I can’t really put my finger on why, but I don’t think I believe you.

Your comment is proof to the contrary. You are thus lying and everything you say or do is now severely tainted. I will now produce a seven-pronged argument for why exactly this type of behavior is the hidden root cause of climate change and why you should feel bad. (/s)

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

I know the feeling, but I have to admit that people being obtuse helped me to take them and myself less serious. That said, there are better ways to foster that kind of experience.

Bring out the pitchforks!!

There's a correlation between being really obnoxious and continuing threads on HN or anywhere else.

Occasionally there are good real conversations where people are generally interested and curious but the most common are either marginally interested or very interested in worthless conflict.

There’s a few things that help:

- do not engage with the technically correct but missing the point people

- don’t check your threads if you posted something that the groupthink disagrees with

- don’t try to win arguments if you know you’re right

The number of replies I cut & paste to my notes archive far exceeds the amount of posts I actually make. I still find it valuable to work through my own thoughts to better prepare myself to have the same conversations in more impactful circumstances, but there are some things I just don't care enough about persuading the other person - or believe the other person is actually going to consider the words as carefully as I put them together.

I 100% knew a reply like this was coming :). So I kind of thank you for saying this...

Procrastination Mode on HN (see links in footer) helps significantly. I wish I enabled it earlier, I just kept putting it off.

I can’t help but notice how all those points are centered around you being the bearer of truth and others being the source of dismay.

While these may be easy ways to avoid exposing yourself to sources of discomfort it might also not be a bad idea to learn how to deal with confrontation and dissonance in a productive manner.

Besides being contrarian, I am nothing if not that, I honestly think our society at large will benefit from learning how to deal constructively with opposing perspectives and mindsets - assuming we ever get to that point.

While I ostensibly agree about learning how to deal constructively with opposing perspectives, I also don't think online discourse (main stream avenues) will ever be the place to learn or partake in those sorts of conversations. Even in smaller subreddits, your comments will be viewed by thousands of people, some of whom are explicitly there to troll or to argue in bad faith or even people literally having mental breakdowns. You also end up in situations where every reply is to a new person, so you're not really having a discourse with anyone just an amorphous entity. Look at things like "Godwin's law" or "Poe's law", for some long running beliefs/commentary on internet discourse.

> don’t try to win arguments if you know you’re right

Caveats:

- I can be wrong (sometimes need some pointing out)

- it is ok to post for the benefit of lurkers (inform others of fake news and such)

Along with don't check your threads, don't check your votes. I'm always struck by people saying "I don't know why I was downvoted for such-and-such." Where do they find the time to go back and check the votes on comments they made? I say the things I say and move on.

This is so true and cathartic, and it has me wondering if sites are collecting the angry data I type in to inputs but don't submit. I'd LOVEEE to know what the stats are on posts that almost got posted.

Yeah, majority of my comments never get submitted. I’ll type a reply, edit, challenge/research my assumptions, and then ask myself this it’s adding material value to the conversation that doesn’t need to be further explained/elaborated. Most often I’m content with having refined my thoughts on a topic and close tab without submitting. Kinda like work email chains pre-slack.