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Jagged AGI: o3, Gemini 2.5, and everything after

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265 points ctoth | 1 comments | 20 Apr 25 14:55 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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mellosouls ◴[20 Apr 25 17:44 UTC] No.43745240[source]▶
The capabilities of AI post gpt3 have become extraordinary and clearly in many cases superhuman.

However (as the article admits) there is still no general agreement of what AGI is, or how we (or even if we can) get there from here.

What there is is a growing and often naïve excitement that anticipates it as coming into view, and unfortunately that will be accompanied by the hype-merchants desperate to be first to "call it".

This article seems reasonable in some ways but unfortunately falls into the latter category with its title and sloganeering.

"AGI" in the title of any article should be seen as a cautionary flag. On HN - if anywhere - we need to be on the alert for this.

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ashoeafoot ◴[20 Apr 25 18:10 UTC] No.43745398[source]▶
AGI is a annonymous good model coming around the corner with no company and no LLM researchers attached. AGI is when the LLM hype train threads are replaced with CEOs and let go researchers demanding UBI.
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1. ben_w ◴[20 Apr 25 20:05 UTC] No.43746184[source]▶
It's easy to treat AGI as one thing — I did so myself before everyone's differing reaction to LLMs made me realise we all mean different things by each of the three letters of the initialism, and that none of those initials are really boolean valued.

Given how Dutch disease[0] is described, I suspect that if the "G" (general) increases with fixed "I" (intelligence), as the proportion of economic activity for which the Pareto frontier is AI rather than human expands, I think humans will get pay rises for the remaining work right up until they get unemployable.

On the other hand, if "G" is fully general and it's "I" which rises for a suitable cost[1], it goes through IQ 55 (displacing no workers) to IQ 100 (probably close to half of workers redundant, but mean of population doesn't have to equal mean of workforce), to IQ 145 (almost everyone redundant), to IQ 200 (definitionally renders everyone redundant).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

[1] A fully-general AGI with the equivalent of IQ 200 on any possible test, still can't replace a single human if it costs 200 trillion USD per year to run.