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Aqua Tofana: The 17th Century Husband Killer

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68 points gappy | 5 comments | 14 Apr 25 19:15 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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throw83849488[dead post] ◴[18 Apr 25 08:05 UTC] No.43726009[source]▶
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cubefox[dead post] ◴[18 Apr 25 08:29 UTC] No.43726121[source]▶
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ceejayoz ◴[18 Apr 25 14:22 UTC] No.43728357{3}[source]▶
Some of these'll be genuine murders, sure.

Some will be self-defense by battered spouses in an situation where divorce was not really a option.

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cubefox ◴[18 Apr 25 21:41 UTC] No.43732110{4}[source]▶
Murder is not a case of legitimate self-defense.
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1. ceejayoz ◴[19 Apr 25 13:52 UTC] No.43736424{5}[source]▶
What’s lawful varies, in both time and jurisdiction. I’m glad our current setup lets people unilaterally end a marriage, thus presenting much better options for self-defense than battered spouses in medieval Italy.
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2. cubefox ◴[19 Apr 25 15:16 UTC] No.43736971[source]▶
All the same, it doesn't and didn't justify murder.
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3. ceejayoz ◴[20 Apr 25 01:10 UTC] No.43740793[source]▶
Sure it does. Even in the modern justice system it’s at least a mitigating circumstance, and that’s with people having the right to leave.
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4. cubefox ◴[20 Apr 25 14:14 UTC] No.43743895{3}[source]▶
It doesn't justify it morally. (And it was illegal then and is now.)
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5. ceejayoz ◴[20 Apr 25 16:04 UTC] No.43744637{4}[source]▶
Is being stuck as the property of an abusive spouse with no legal recourse moral?

What’s the moral choice for someone with zero 100% moral options?

Legal and moral aren’t the same. The Holocaust was legal under German law at the time; French partisans offing Nazis was illegal.