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googlryas ◴[] No.43656769[source]
I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.
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esalman ◴[] No.43657102[source]
I am part of a neighborhood group where I grew up in Bangladesh and lived until 5th grade in the 90s.

The group admin this morning let us know via Facebook post that he has received warnings frm Facebook. The group is "at a risk of being suspended" because way too many posts relating to "dangerous organization and individuals" have been removed. He wants everyone to be extra careful when posting about p*l*s*i*e, I*r*e*, g*z*, j*w* etc. He used asterisks himself just to be extra careful himself.

Not to mention my country is dealing with rohingya crisis, which was fueled by Facebook and WhatsApp misinformation campaigns, and Facebook had 2 moderators for the whole country of Myanmar and refused to do anything about said misinformation campaigns. But they sure make exceptions for I*r*e*.

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SauciestGNU[dead post] ◴[] No.43660888[source]
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SauciestGNU ◴[] No.43661575[source]
I don't. The dissolution of a state implies nothing about the disposition of its people or a violent end to said state.
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iddan ◴[] No.43661681[source]
Easily overlooking the holocaust, the farhud and the pogroms. Israel was founded because Jewish people were not safe without a state.
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KingMob ◴[] No.43663512[source]
FYI, I'm Jewish, with Israeli friends, and kibbutznik family on my great-grandaunt's side.

Israelis like you tell themselves this, but you don't speak for the diaspora. I personally feel that Israel makes the rest of us less safe, not more.

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edanm ◴[] No.43668483[source]
I highly recommend watching Haviv Rettig Gur's talk about the differences between the Jews of the diaspora (he's mostly talking about the US), and Israeli Jews. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKoUC0m1U9E)

To sum up a long and fascinating lecture, he makes the case that the Jews of the US diaspora are the few Jews who managed to find a country that actually took them in and treated them as equals, which is almost a complete aberration.

Whereas Israeli Jews are largely the descendants of the survivors of the Holocaust- those Jews who learned the hard way that much of the world wanted to kill them, and that they couldn't trust any country to take them in.

Israel's population was largely made up, in terms of numbers, of people either fleeing the Holocaust, or Holocaust survivors who were displaced persons and literally had no other place to go - no country wanted them.

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1. KingMob ◴[] No.43725902[source]
For starters, "few" is a misnomer. The US Jewish population is just shy of Israel's Jewish population (6.3m to 7.2m). Don't insinuate that American Jews are too few in number to get a voice.

If you wish to say that American Jews "had it easy", then I can just as easily say the opposite: Israeli Jews are too "traumatized" to see how they're perpetuating injustice in the name of security.