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863 points IdealeZahlen | 4 comments | 17 Apr 25 14:47 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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Frieren ◴[17 Apr 25 18:43 UTC] No.43720645[source]▶
This is necessary now, but it should have been done years back.

Nowadays, many companies backed up by investors with very deep pockets are doing this in all markets: start to buy middle-man companies in a space, it does not matter which one, dominate the market thanks to monopolistic power. Screw the clients making them pay too much, screw the providers paying them too little. Go for the next market.

Google does this for ads. But, with Apple, does the same for app vendors. Amazon does it for all kinds of brands with physical products. Uber does it for taxi drivers and their clients. All of them take a big chunk of the profit while making things more expensive, but they are the only real option to reach clients as they have used tactics to monopolize entire markets.

This should be impossible, because there are laws against it. If it is allowed the future of the economy is one big corporation with all workers working for it, and everybody buying from it. It looks like a scifi dystopia.

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foobarian ◴[17 Apr 25 19:01 UTC] No.43720826[source]▶
If only Marx et al. knew that the end game of capitalism is communism! Would have probably slept much better at night.
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timewizard ◴[17 Apr 25 19:55 UTC] No.43721433[source]▶
So you're acknowledging that the best way to make a population powerless and then rob them blind is Communism?
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shadowgovt ◴[17 Apr 25 20:31 UTC] No.43721896{3}[source]▶
I don't know, capitalism seems to be doing a pretty good job of it right now. I'd have to see some hard numbers on efficacy.

Has anyone done a normalized any% speedrun to breadlines on these two fierce contenders? Can monarchy get in on this?

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milesrout ◴[17 Apr 25 22:15 UTC] No.43722803{4}[source]▶
We are wealthier than we have ever been so I fail to see how capitalism has made us poor.

Poor compared to what? The past when we were poorer?

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shadowgovt ◴[18 Apr 25 00:03 UTC] No.43723578{5}[source]▶
You can hide a lot of bad experiences behind averaging over 300+ million people.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/01/09/trends-...

... And, to be blunt, if things are better than ever, why is the US sliding straight into fascism?

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1. milesrout ◴[18 Apr 25 06:01 UTC] No.43725433{6}[source]▶
It isn't. Just like it wasn't sliding into fascism under Reagan, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush 2, or Trump the first time, even though all the same people claimed that at the time.
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2. shadowgovt ◴[18 Apr 25 11:09 UTC] No.43726914[source]▶
Oh, good. I must have misunderstood the whole "disappeared to an El Salvadoran prison without due process" story.

... And you've gotten very close to the point without touching it. The country has been sliding, this whole time. Reagan arguably started the ball rolling. It just takes a long time to break down the democratic norms in a country this big.

But they're broken down now.

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3. milesrout ◴[18 Apr 25 23:23 UTC] No.43732772[source]▶
You did misunderstand it. Applying the law of the land as it has stood and been applied for hundreds of years isn't fascist. If anyone thought the Alien Enemies Act were fascist they could have repealed it at any time since the 18th century.

Nobody is being "disappeared". The word you are looking for is "deported". Deportation isn't a new idea or a new thing.

>The country has been sliding, this whole time. Reagan arguably started the ball rolling.

No it hasn't. The US became freer under all of those presidents, except George W. Bush and his surveillance programmes. None of them are fascists. In no case did the country end up closer to fascism after they were in.

The US is nowhere near fascism. The fact anyone thinks it is near it is just more evidence of how uneducated Americans are about the rest of the world.

Trump hasn't damaged or broken down any "democratic norms".

Yeah he claimed his election loss was illegitimate. So did Hilary Clinton! (It was all just a Russian hoax remember? Trump is a Russian agent--all the debunked Russiagate claims). It isn't like he started a civil war over it, unless you're one of those people that believes the absurd propaganda that claims he instigated an attempted coup by giving a speech where he didn't tell anyone to do anything, suggest anyone do anything, or or in any other way encourage or instigate anything.

I'm sorry your preferred candidate lost. I get it. It happens to us all. It isn't the end of the world. Presidents are allowed to act in accordance with the law--including their own stretched interpretations of it until they get kicked back by the courts--and that includes all the things Trump is being accused of.

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4. shadowgovt ◴[19 Apr 25 00:48 UTC] No.43733243{3}[source]▶
They snatched somebody off the street. Put them on a plane to El Salvador. Without any due process . Then definitively said they made a mistake. And he's not back.

This isn't about preferred candidates losing. I've had preferred candidates lose multiple times in my life for various positions.

This is the culmination of the process that has been rolling through America responding to an attack on our home soil by creating a Department of Homeland security. This is the last chance for it to stop getting worse. There isn't another step beyond "They can disappear you from the street and drop you in a prison in El Salvador with no trial."

> the Alien Enemies Act

... Is for wartime. It's "Enemies" as in the phrase "Enemies at war, in peace friends".

Who are we at war with right now? If you believe "terrorism," you have understood my point.