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This 'College Protester' Isn't Real. It's an AI-Powered Undercover Bot for Cops

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235 points colinprince | 1 comments | 17 Apr 25 13:57 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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nekochanwork ◴[17 Apr 25 15:45 UTC] No.43718533[source]▶
SCOTUS ruled in Mathews v. United States (1998) and in Jacobson v. United States (1992) that the government cannot induce a person to commit a crime, then arrest that individual for that crime.

Now the government is rolling out fully-automated entrapment bots.

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beloch ◴[17 Apr 25 17:27 UTC] No.43719814[source]▶
The U.S. is currently disappearing people to foreign prisons, openly and in flagrant defiance of the courts. Trump has signalled he intends to expand this practice to include U.S. citizens (Just the worst convicted criminals currently in prison, of course.). If this administration can get away with all that, disappearing students who were entrapped by police will probably follow. Foreign students first, then Americans.
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dlachausse ◴[17 Apr 25 17:50 UTC] No.43720120[source]▶
The lack of due process is a big problem, but what if the court in question issues an order that is impossible to legally comply with?

The United States has no jurisdiction over citizens of El Salvador in El Salvador. What is Trump supposed to do in this case, call up Pete Hegseth and order a commando style raid on the prison he’s being held in?

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patch_collector ◴[17 Apr 25 18:13 UTC] No.43720363[source]▶
I imagine asking would likely do the trick. As an escalation, considering we're paying them to hold these people, we could threaten to stop paying them. They're not locking up our detainees out of the goodness of their heart.
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dlachausse[dead post] ◴[17 Apr 25 19:33 UTC] No.43721153[source]▶
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1. acdha ◴[18 Apr 25 00:07 UTC] No.43723601{3}[source]▶
None of the things you are talking so confidently about are factual. A police officer filled out a form saying he believed he was in a gang but that was never tested in court and there’s a long history of that sort of assertion turning out not to be true, which seems plausible in this case because the officer was suspended for professional misconduct on a different case a few months later.

Similarly, you’re claiming that he’s a wife beater but she’s advocating for his return:

> “After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated,” Vasquez Sura said in a statement Wednesday. “Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process.

> “No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect. That is not a justification for ICE’s action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation,” she added.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-documents-governmen...

Again, nobody is saying he can’t ever be deported. All we’re saying is that he deserves the due process of law the constitution guarantees for everyone - not just citizens - and humane treatment, as the heavily Republican Supreme Court just affirmed is a legal requirement. If he is as bad as you claim, that can be established in court just as we’ve done for millions of criminals over hundreds of years.