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lupka ◴[] No.43718153[source]
Happy to see this and hopefully there are some changes. Right now I'm dealing with a crazy Adsense issue and there is no recourse, no customer support and no alternative.
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whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43718586[source]
There is no shortage of other ad platforms. Breaking up Google isn't going to solve your specific issue lol
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azemetre ◴[] No.43718857[source]
No but it would stop a single company from accumulating so much power.

How you can argue such things are democratic are beyond me. There is nothing democratic about trillion dollar corporations that can ruin your business for refusing to play their game.

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whoknowsidont ◴[] No.43719156[source]
How can Google ruin your business?
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afavour ◴[] No.43719224[source]
I've seen countless examples, e.g. a business that depends on online advertising gets its account suspended for incorrect reasons and there is literally no-one to reach at Google to get unsuspended.
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carlosjobim ◴[] No.43719544{3}[source]
If you made your business become completely dependent on a third party, you were already a failure and shouldn't have a business. Being a successful businessman is not a right. It's competition.
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afavour ◴[] No.43720439{4}[source]
Isn't one of the specific complaints about monopolies that it leaves you with no choice but to be dependent on the third party?

If Google blocks my access to the only viable ad network do you really think it's reasonable to say I need to set up my own ad exchange?

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carlosjobim ◴[] No.43721582{5}[source]
Trillions of dollars are spent on advertising outside of Google. You can advertise in print, billboards, radio and television ads, Netflix, or on social media behemoths.

Hackers call every big business they do not like a "monopoly". What's next, Burger King is a monopoly? I dislike Google more than most and would never buy nor sell ads with them, but they have no monopoly on advertising.

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1. afavour ◴[] No.43721701{6}[source]
I’m sorry, this perspective is absurd. I’m talking about a web site that shows ads. You’re suggesting they pivot to running off billboards? To creating TV shows?

> What’s next, Burger King is a monopoly?

I think this just illustrates that you’re not grasping the concept. Of course Burger King isn’t a monopoly. With my car when looking for a drive through dining experience I can go to McDonalds. Or Wendy’s. Or whatever. When operating a small to medium size web site that depends on advertising for revenue the viable alternatives to Google essentially don’t exist.

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2. carlosjobim ◴[] No.43721942[source]
Situation 1: You want to advertise your product or service. There are endless options outside of Google, including some options where the audience is counted in the hundreds of millions.

Situation 2: You want to let others advertise their products or service in your space. There is an endless amount of companies which you can contact to make advertising deals. If you are too lazy to do that and want a third party to take care of it, then you can use Google as a middle man. But they are not obliged to do business with you.

If the justice wants to go after Google, then they could (and should) prosecute Google (and Meta, and Twitter) for all the scam and malware ads they permit through their platform. That is billions of dollars of money laundering, and the CEOs should be imprisoned for this. For life.