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lawlessone ◴[] No.43717502[source]
>I-powered bots across social media and the internet to talk to people they suspect are anything from violent sex criminals all the way to vaguely defined “protestors” with the hopes of generating evidence that can be used against them.

so what if the bot radicalizes them?

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sc68cal ◴[] No.43717646[source]
The FBI already grooms young men and provides fake explosives for them to do terror attacks, so they can arrest them. They start by talking to them online so all this is doing is making the process cheaper and larger scale
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_fat_santa ◴[] No.43717853[source]
From a purely law enforcement perspective this blows my mind. Rather than fighting crime, they are generating crime to them fight it. It would be like an SWE intentionally creates a bug and then fixes it in the name of "making the system bug free"
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bombcar ◴[] No.43718281[source]
If you imagine a scenario with a known murderer and you have two options:

* Wait until he does a murder, and then try to capture him AND prove it was him

* Seduce him into planning a murder and then arrest him before he carries it out

The second seems desirable, given the "known murderer" part. And once you've setup something to do that, it becomes very easy to feed others into it.

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1. Draiken ◴[] No.43720060[source]
This is minority report bullshit.

If you have a known murderer that is free presumably he's already paid for his crimes, no? So luring him into doing it again is extremely anti-ethical to me.

There's no pre-crime... yet. This is where you get profiling and abuse of power everywhere.

IDK how we can say manipulating people into commiting crimes is a good option. That's a crime. If we're going to commit crimes in the name of "preventing crimes" then why not go and arrest/kill the suspect directly? It's simply a different crime, right? But since I have the monopoly on violence, I can do what I want and case closed.

How can this be a good option?

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2. gs17 ◴[] No.43720453[source]
I'd say it's Psycho-Pass more than Minority Report. They're fishing for latent criminals.