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    ajdude ◴[] No.43712307[source]
    A few years ago I had a .us TLD. I eventually decided that I probably shouldn't be reliant on a country code for my domain, it's the same reason why I don't use .io

    I'm not saying that this couldn't have happened with a gTLD But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

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    1. jsheard ◴[] No.43712339[source]
    > it's the same reason why I don't use .io

    Dodged a bullet there given that .io is at risk of being discontinued altogether. It hasn't been decided yet, but better to not have that dangling over your head.

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    2. eli ◴[] No.43712406[source]
    I don't think that's a real risk
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    3. jsheard ◴[] No.43712471[source]
    It wouldn't be the first time a ccTLD has been retired after its country ceased to be, though it would be the most disruptive given how popular it is, hence the uncertainty as to what they'll do this time.
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    4. apitman ◴[] No.43712624{3}[source]
    Whatever happens is going to set some really important precedent for sure.
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    5. sgarland ◴[] No.43712732{3}[source]
    If I were Mauritius, I would be hitting tech companies left and right to secure a permanent income stream.

    You guys want to kick indigenous people off their land for military bases? Enjoy your new bill for .io domains.

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    6. TheDong ◴[] No.43712856{4}[source]
    I think '.su' is already that precedent, since it had many active domains, recently had active registration, and ICANN has announced plans to phase it out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su

    See also '.yu' and friends, which have already been deleted.

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    7. barry-cotter ◴[] No.43713243{4}[source]
    The Chagossians are not by any meaningful standards indigenous. The land was uninhabited when George Washington was rebelling against the British. If the Chagossians are indigenous so are old stock white Americans.

    And Mauritius have treated the Chagossians like dirt for decades, with no signs of that changing.

    None of this is to deny the Chagossians were extremely ill treated by the British, but the idea that the Mauritanians have any interest in the welfare of the Chagossians is ridiculous.

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    8. seszett ◴[] No.43713461{3}[source]
    That territory is not going to "cease to be", it's just going to change hands. The uncertainty was entirely created as an easy way to get views.
    9. ascorbic ◴[] No.43713571{5}[source]
    The fact that the country ceased to exist a year after .su was created and yet the TLD still exists 34 years later is probably precedent for the opposite.
    10. bigstrat2003 ◴[] No.43713660{4}[source]
    Hopefully that doesn't happen as not everyone who uses a .io is a tech company. I've been using a .io domain for my personal email for something like a decade now, when I just thought "oh that's a cool TLD" and had no idea it was even a country TLD. I don't much relish the idea of getting soaked for money to stick it to the man when I haven't done anything morally wrong.
    11. xp84 ◴[] No.43713860[source]
    You can bet it wouldn't be actually discontinued, but you can bet when/if the UK gives away the island to Mauritius or whatever, they'll lease the rights to the highest bidder, and those people will be free to extort everyone with a valuable .io domain.
    12. j45 ◴[] No.43714322[source]
    This news to me, thanks for sharing.
    13. Y_Y ◴[] No.43715120{5}[source]
    I have some sympathy for your position, but I'll add that the prevailing moral opinion seems to be "whoever got there first is the rightful owner". Of course you have to allow for armchair ethnologists not being particularly good at distinguishing between similar groups and later revisionism.

    A lot of Pacific islands territories have complicated histories like this (e.g. Hawaii, New Zealand), but the focus usually ends up on whatever bastards most recently took over from the previous bastards (relative levels of bastardy notwithstanding).

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    15. ryan29 ◴[] No.43719091[source]
    It's going to be interesting to see what they do. One of the core arguments when claiming the domain industry enjoys a competitive market is that switching costs are bearable and that switching TLDs is an option if registries increase prices too much.

    So ICANN has a non-trivial choice to make. Either they maintain the position that switching costs are bearable and let .io disappear, or they admit that TLD switching is impossible and save .io, which will make it hard to argue the threat of (registrants) TLD switching keeps the industry competitive.

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    16. apitman ◴[] No.43720270{5}[source]
    How many domains are we talking though, and how many .io are there? Genuine question since I have no idea.
    17. Sunspark ◴[] No.43720275{6}[source]
    Absolutely. For example, the Maoris are not the original indigenous. What happened to them you may ask? They became literal dinner for the Maoris. This has happened elsewhere too. True original indigenous are rare.

    The thing with the island of Diego Garcia is quite strange and I strongly suspect there is corruption involved. The UK wishes to divest itself? Instead of holding an auction where the rest of the planet can bid on purchasing the territory, the UK decided that Mauritius would take it (who doesn't really want it) and to entice them, the UK is going to PAY Mauritius to take the territory and leave the base alone. The amount is £90 million annually, adjusted for inflation for 99 years.

    This is a lot of money, why not just NOT turn it over and not have to give away £90 million a year for a century? So, it begs the question.. is someone from the UK side benefiting from this no-bid deal?

    Give the island to me, and I won't charge the UK to have the base.

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    18. immibis ◴[] No.43726740[source]
    Fortunately, ICANN is based in America, where there's no law that markets have to be fair or that you can't lie.
    19. chris1993 ◴[] No.43733522{7}[source]
    Māori were the first settlers of NZ. There’s no record of any earlier population being “dinner” for anyone.
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    20. Y_Y ◴[] No.43744060{8}[source]
    Citation needed!

    As I understand it there were no Maori before NZ was settled, that culture formed there from the Polynesian"moa-hunters". Some descendants of those settlers became the Maori, but that a different claim.

    Furthermore, there are just generally very few records so I think it's very difficult to make definite claims like you or GP do.