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OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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514 points mfiguiere | 3 comments | 16 Apr 25 17:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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cube2222 ◴[16 Apr 25 19:47 UTC] No.43709576[source]▶
Fingers crossed for this to work well! Claude Code is pretty excellent.

I’m actually legitimately surprised how good it is, since other coding agents I’ve used before have mostly been a letdown, which made me only use Claude in direct change prompting with Zed (“implement xyz here”, “rewrite this function with abc”, etc), so very hands-on.

So I’ve went into trying out Claude Code rather pessimistically, and now I’m using it all the time! Sure, it ends up costing a bunch, but it’s easy to justify $15 for a prompting session if the end result is a mostly complete PR, done much faster.

All that is to say - competition is good, fingers crossed for codex!

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retinaros ◴[16 Apr 25 19:56 UTC] No.43709674[source]▶
too expensive. I cant understand why everyone is into claude code vs using claude in cursor or windsurf.
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danenania ◴[16 Apr 25 20:00 UTC] No.43709708[source]▶
I think it depends a lot on how you value your time. I'm personally willing to spend hundreds or thousands per month happily if it saves me enough hours. I'd estimate that if I were to do consulting, I'd likely be charging in the $150-250 per hour range, so by my math, it's pretty easy to justify any tools that save me even a few hours per month.
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_joel ◴[16 Apr 25 20:02 UTC] No.43709732[source]▶
You get the same results for cheaper by using a different tool (Windsurf's better imho).
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1. danenania ◴[16 Apr 25 20:07 UTC] No.43709775{3}[source]▶
That may be, but I think tools with a fixed monthly fee are always going to have an incentive to reduce their own costs on the backend and route you toward less capable models, cut down context size, produce less output, stop before the task is truly finished, etc.

Given how much time these models can save me, I'd rather optimize for capability and just accept whatever the price is as a cost of doing business. (Within reason I guess—I probably wouldn't go beyond $2-3k per month at this point, unless there was very clear ROI on that spend.)

Also, it's not only about saving time. More powerful AI tools allow me to build things it would otherwise be impossible to build... that's just as important as the time/cost equation.

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2. _joel ◴[17 Apr 25 06:47 UTC] No.43713809[source]▶
It's literally the same model. I can build more complex stuff in windsurf as the IDE is better than Cline/Roocode integration in vscode. It's still the same model under the hood. Sonnet 202500219

I mean, you pour money down the drain if you think it's helping, have at it :P

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3. og_kalu ◴[17 Apr 25 13:14 UTC] No.43716350[source]▶
It's the same model but not necessarily the same context. Like he said, those tools try to be very 'smart' with context to save costs.

You're not actually getting all the files you add in the context window, you're getting a RAG'd version of it, which is generally much worse if the un-RAG'd code is still within the effective context limit.