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America underestimates the difficulty of bringing manufacturing back

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842 points putzdown | 5 comments | 15 Apr 25 13:50 UTC | HN request time: 0.221s | source
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mppm ◴[15 Apr 25 14:12 UTC] No.43692983[source]▶
Jonathan Blow's "Preventing the collapse of civilization" [1] makes a similar point. It is easy to assume that, if we can build EUV machines and space telescopes, then processing stainless steel and manufacturing PCBs is baby stuff, and is just waiting for the proper incentives to spring up again. Unfortunately that is not the case -- reality has a surprising amount of detail [2] and even medium-level technology takes know-how and skilled workers to execute properly. Both can be recovered and scaled back up if the will is there. And time -- ten or twenty years of persistent and intelligent effort should be plenty to MAGA :)

1. https://www.youtube.com/embed/pW-SOdj4Kkk

2. http://johnsalvatier.org/blog/2017/reality-has-a-surprising-...

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1. saati ◴[15 Apr 25 21:25 UTC] No.43698581[source]▶
The US can't even make EUV machines, just parts of it.
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2. mcv ◴[16 Apr 25 16:06 UTC] No.43707099[source]▶
"Can't even". I think there's only one country that can, so the US is not alone.
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3. trynumber9 ◴[16 Apr 25 17:36 UTC] No.43708185[source]▶
The EUV light sources are all made in San Diego. Currently, there is no single country that can make an 3600D or equivalent machine. Which shouldn't be surprising given the complexity.
4. m463 ◴[16 Apr 25 21:12 UTC] No.43710443[source]▶
I thought one of our labs invented it. maybe we are already doing it.

EDIT: no sorry wasn't a secret project. it was a consortium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithograph...

5. runeks ◴[23 Apr 25 09:38 UTC] No.43770218[source]▶
No one country can. ASML imports parts from all over the world.