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    It's easier than ever to de-censor videos

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    382 points DamonHD | 12 comments | 15 Apr 25 17:12 UTC | HN request time: 1.889s | source | bottom
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    Funes- ◴[15 Apr 25 19:46 UTC] No.43697535[source]▶
    Japanese porn is being "decensored" with AI as we speak, in fact. It looks a tad uncanny, still, but finding a "decensored" clip in the wild was quite the thing for me a couple of weeks ago.
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    1. internetter ◴[15 Apr 25 19:56 UTC] No.43697630[source]▶
    This is a completely different process — the AI is inferencing what goes there, it isn't actually using any information from the pixels so it wouldn't work in this case.

    Not to mention deeply and disturbingly unethical

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    2. gjsman-1000 ◴[15 Apr 25 20:18 UTC] No.43697886[source]▶
    So let me get this straight: Porn can be ethical - selling your nude features online can be ethical - doing the activities in porn consensually can be ethical - pleasuring yourself on other people doing so can be ethical - but using AI to infer nude features is "disturbingly unethical"?
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    3. ziddoap ◴[15 Apr 25 20:55 UTC] No.43698275[source]▶
    >but using AI to infer nude features is "disturbingly unethical"?

    If it is against the wishes of the people in the video, yes, yes it is.

    E: Never thought I'd see the day I'm downvoted for saying un-blurring porn of people who made porn under the assumption that it would be blurred (and may not have made that same decision without that context) is unethical, on HN of all places, but times are strange I guess.

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    4. GuinansEyebrows ◴[15 Apr 25 21:13 UTC] No.43698461[source]▶
    only one of these things has an intrinsic environmental tax exponentially higher than the rest.
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    5. anigbrowl ◴[15 Apr 25 21:14 UTC] No.43698466{3}[source]▶
    In this case it's a legal requirement imposed by the government.
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    6. sva_ ◴[15 Apr 25 21:25 UTC] No.43698579[source]▶
    It would use information from the pixels around it though.

    > Not to mention deeply and disturbingly unethical

    Is it really deeply disturbingly unethical? Just FYI, it isn't their identities that are censored, but their genitals are pixelated due to Japanese laws.

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    7. kbelder ◴[15 Apr 25 21:37 UTC] No.43698697{3}[source]▶
    You think using AI on the video has a higher environmental impact than actually filming the video in the first place?
    8. Der_Einzige ◴[15 Apr 25 21:41 UTC] No.43698737{3}[source]▶
    Piracy is the opposite of unethical, because information wants to be free. IP rights holders had their NAP violated - and society is better off for it.

    The reason it's "against the wishes" of folks in a JAV video is because of the legal risk it opens them up to from the Japanese government - not because the actors/actresses "don't consent to viewers seeing their uncensored body".

    Note that I am NOT talking about distribution of non consensual deepfakes. Obviously that's abhorrent.

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    9. googlryas ◴[15 Apr 25 22:06 UTC] No.43698995{4}[source]▶
    Yes, but their decisions to be porn stars were made within the context of that law. Maybe they wouldn't care about the uncensored version of their video getting out. Maybe they would?
    10. Funes- ◴[15 Apr 25 22:34 UTC] No.43699244[source]▶
    >It would use information from the pixels around it though.

    I'd bet it could use information from the pixels around it and the blurred out ones as well. It's not hard to imagine such an approach.

    11. beeflet ◴[16 Apr 25 01:31 UTC] No.43700452[source]▶
    why is it so deeply unethical to remix porn into... porn
    12. ziddoap ◴[16 Apr 25 14:26 UTC] No.43706010{4}[source]▶
    >not because the actors/actresses "don't consent to viewers seeing their uncensored body".

    How can you possibly know this? They made the career decision while knowing what the law was. They may not have made that decision if the law was different.