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jqpabc123 ◴[] No.43689886[source]
The ultimate long term solution --- refuse to buy any home product that defies local control.

If a wifi password is required to make full use of the device, I will return it.

If some users want to sacrifice security and privacy for "convenience", that's on them. But if you want to sell me the product, at least provide the option to decline without loss of functionality. Otherwise, no sale.

As an example, I refuse to buy a doorbell camera that doesn't support RTSP.

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123pie123 ◴[] No.43690116[source]
I've been doing this for years, but it's hard work trying to get information on how bad these devices could spy on you - before you buy them

I just guess now and make sure the company has a good returns policy

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1. connicpu ◴[] No.43695545[source]
For the most part I just stick to zigbee devices and I can be sure they're fully under my local control because their only gateway to the network is the zigbee modem attached to my Raspberry Pi running Home Assistant. Sometimes requires messing with some quirks to get the full functionality I need out of them, but the community is pretty good about supporting most devices out of the box.