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wormlord ◴[] No.43693350[source]
I think the collapse of the American Empire is no more preventible than the collapse of the British, Spanish, or Roman empires. The issues with the US being the reserve currency has been known for a while now (and was even predicted by Keynes before the Bretton-Woods summit):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma

Any discussion of "bringing back manufacturing" that doesn't mention government spending or social programs to educate and upskill the population is not genuine. The current leadership are fools and ideologs who will only hasten the decline, which might actually be better globally if it lowers emissions. Time will tell I guess.

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1. nonethewiser ◴[] No.43695222[source]
America doesnt really have an empire. What is America's Hong Kong, India, etc?
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2. wormlord ◴[] No.43695712[source]
Dude come on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_imperialism#Strategy

Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Guam, American Samoa, are locations that are directly under US control. The entire western hemisphere is within our sphere of control, and a huge chunk of the planet was either directly aligned with us (EU, AUS/UK) or was compliant for fear of regime change.

The country itself was founded on the destruction of dozens of civilizations, a victory so total you don't even consider it as part of US imperial conquest. I can't believe I even have to explain this to people on here my God.

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3. const_cast ◴[] No.43698371[source]
America's empire isn't really built on blantant colonialism (although we do that, too). It's built on "planting" US favorable governments all around the world.

I mean, we have half of Africa shooting themselves in the foot over and over for our own benefit. And every time it looks like an African nation is going to do something about it, some counter-military force appears out of nowhere (with US arms?) and some important political heads are assassinated.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, either. The destabilization of world governments done by our government to our benefit is well recorded.

4. munchler ◴[] No.43711315[source]
The combined population of those locations is about 5 million people. Compare with, say, colonial India, which was about 300 million people.

I’m not denying the existence of American imperialism entirely, but let’s be real about its scope compared to old school empires.