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jqpabc123 ◴[] No.43689886[source]
The ultimate long term solution --- refuse to buy any home product that defies local control.

If a wifi password is required to make full use of the device, I will return it.

If some users want to sacrifice security and privacy for "convenience", that's on them. But if you want to sell me the product, at least provide the option to decline without loss of functionality. Otherwise, no sale.

As an example, I refuse to buy a doorbell camera that doesn't support RTSP.

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1. fcpk ◴[] No.43692845[source]
One overlooked variable here is that price is a huge consideration factor into IoT acceptance. Convenience is one thing, but having to pay 10x more is another.

China(up to now, now with tariffs stuff... who knows) has been exceptional in that they produced IoT devices for many use cases at very reasonnable prices. Want a water leak detector that's zigbee connected? that's only 5 bucks. if I want to buy one from a "western" company(still produced in china) it instantly gets marketed to a premium market and costs 10x or 20x more.

They have no incentive to make their products work in pure local when companies like Tuya provide SDKs, chips, and frameworks at a low price and easy entry barrier. But of course that locks into their ecosystem.

It's possible that a company making an open toolkit with easy integration for esp32/etc could gain enough traction to get many devices to use that, but at this point it's unlikely.

As for HA... I love it and run it locally, but it's not for the faint of heart. And spending dozens of hours modifying devices and configuration to get everything running is a priviledge few have the skills, time and knowledge to do.

As always... this is a case of "the only incentive is money and hence the system will lock itself".

Wouldn't it be great if the EU could force these companies to surrender local control?