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1. tannhaeuser ◴[] No.43691669[source]
I mean, Mistral AI is a Paris-based company, and theirs was considered on par or better than other open weight models such as llama3.1 and qwen2.5, and mistral-24b is currently beating oh-so-great gemma3-27b depending on tasks.

Also, Stable Diffusion was originally (and still is I believe) developed in Munich.

It's true though that raising capital and finding investors works wayyy better in the US (kindof needless to say on HN) and so was getting top talent - at least in the past. Don't get me started on energy prices ;) but I don't believe those contribute significantly in the end anyway.

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3. nickpsecurity ◴[] No.43692934[source]
You don't think American companies raising hundreds of millions to ten billion for training models contributed to their model performance or market positions?

I think a pile of money and talent is largely the cause of where they're at.